HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-07-11 - Planning Board Meeting Minutes Approved: 11/14/13
VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
MINUTES
1. Review of the September 2011; April 2012; May 2012; June 2012; and July 2012
Minutes
PUBLIC HEARING
2. Consideration of a Site Plan Application by Phyllis Fratarcangelli to construct a fence
in the Scenic Roads Overlay District at 147 North Ridge Street, Rye Brook, NY,
Parcel I.D. 135.51-1-79
• Consideration of a resolution
CONTINUED BUSINESS
3. Discussion of a Local Law referral from the Board of Trustees regarding application
referrals to the Planning Board from the Board of Trustees, and discussion of possible
amendments to the Village Code regarding Planning Board approval authority.
• Consideration of a Report and Recommendation
NEW BUSINESS
4. Consideration of a Site Plan Application by Scott Oling to construct a new two-car
garage at 2 Hillandale Road, Rye Brook, NY, Parcel I.D. 135.28-1-41
• Consideration of a referral resolution to the Zoning Board of Appeals
5. Discussion of a Local Law referral from the Board of Trustees for an amendment to
Village Code Section 250-4.1 regarding permanent standby backup generators
ACTION ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS
VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
PRESENT
BOARD Mr. Domenic Accurso
Mr. Robert Goodman
Mr. John Grzan
Mrs. Amy Schoen
Mr. Dan Tartaglia
Chairman Gary Zuckerman
EXCUSED Mr. Bill Laufer
STAFF Mrs. Jennifer Gray, Village Counsel
Mrs. Marilyn Timpone-Mohamed, Village Planning Consultant
Mr. Mike Nowak,Jr., Village Engineer/Superintendent of Public Works
Chairman Zuckerman opened the meeting by asking everyone to join him in the Pledge
of Allegiance. He then introduced the Board members and the Village Staff to the
audience and explained the rules of procedure for the meeting. Additionally, Chairman
Zuckerman made note for the public that the complete set of Planning Board Rules of
Procedure can be found on the Village's website where you can also view the Planning
Board meetings on streaming video.
MINUTES
1. Review of the September 2011; April 2012; May 2012; and July 2012
Minutes
On a motion made by Mrs. Schoen and seconded by Mr. Goodman, Mr. Nowak called the roll,
and the minutes were approved:
MR. ACCURSO YES
MR. GOODMAN YES
MR. GRZAN YES
MR. LAUFER ABSENT
MRS. SCHOEN YES
MR. TARTAGLIA YES
CHAIRMAN ZUCKERMAN YES
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
PUBLIC HEARING
2. Consideration of a Site Plan Application by Phyllis Fratarcangelli to construct a
fence in the Scenic Roads Overlay District at 147 North Ridge Street, Rye Brook,
NY, Parcel I.D. 135.51-1-79
• Consideration of a resolution
Mr. Michael Boender, architect for the applicant addressed the Board advising that there have
been no changes to the plans since their last appearance before the Board. Chairman Zuckerman
responded that the Board made several comments at the last meeting, including that the fence is
5 feet high in the front yard where the Village Code limits the height of fences to four feet in
front yards. As proposed, the portion of the fence in the front yard would require a variance
from the Zoning Board of Appeals..
Thomas Kennedy, attorney for the applicant addressed the Board stating that he believed there
was a change in the plans. Chairman Zuckerman responded that to his knowledge, there have
been no new plans submitted to the Village.
Mr. Nowak clarified that the plans, as he understood them, show a 4 foot high fence for the first
15 feet of the front yard, then the fence increases in height to 5 feet for the rest of the front yard,
and it increases to a 6-foot high fence for the remainder of the property. He added that the
proposed fence is white vinyl.
Chairman Zuckerman stated that before the Public Hearing is closed, he would like the Board
members to provide comments regarding the proposed fence.
Mrs. Gray added that part of the standard of review in the Scenic Roads Overlay District is
whether the fence is architecturally compatible with the buildings and fences in the surrounding
area..
Mr. Grzan stated he would not support the plan as proposed. He would look favorably on a 4 foot
fence in the front yard but does not believe a taller fence should be located in a front yard.
Mr. Accurso concurred with Mr. Grzan.
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
Mr. Goodman agreed. He stated that he walked the neighborhood and found that the existing
fences in the area are no more than 4 feet high. The house is very close to other houses, which he
understands is the motivation for the application, but he believes tall fences in the front yard will
create a cluttered front yard. He also said that a lower fence in the front yard would alleviate that
concern.
Mrs. Schoen also agreed, and thought the Board was clear at the last meeting that they would
like to see a lower fence or a barrier of natural vegetation.
Mr. Tartaglia understood that there may be other properties in that area that have taller fences.
Mr. Boender said he believed there are taller fences at James Way and Tamarack Road, Mr.
Tartaglia went on to say that he does not believe that the height of the fence is as much a
problem as the vinyl material the fence would be made of. Vinyl is not a very attractive material
for a fence, and he would not support the application unless the fence is changed to blend in with
the building materials in the surrounding neighborhood.
Chairman Zuckerman concurred. He feels that a barrier of natural vegetation would be
appropriate for a front yard in the area where the property is located. He summarized the
discussion stating that the consensus of the Board is that it holds an unfavorable opinion of the
application as currently proposed. He asked the applicant if she would be willing to amend the
fence plan to propose something that would be more acceptable to the Board. Otherwise, he
noted the Public Hearing should be closed and the Board should vote on the application.
The Board unanimously granted the applicant's attorney's request for a second call of the
application to allow him time to speak with the applicant.
NEW BUSINESS
4. Consideration of a Site Plan Application by Scott Oling to construct a new 2 car
garage at 2 Hillandale Road, Rye Brook, NY, Parcel I.D. 135.28-1-41
• Consideration of a referral resolution to the Zoning Board of Appeals
Chairman Zuckerman stated that he would recuse himself from review of the application because
he lives across the street from the applicant. Mr. Tartaglia stated he would also recuse himself
because he represented the applicant in the past. Mr. Goodman will serve as Acting Chairman
for review of the application. Mr. Goodman noted that any vote taken would require a
unanimous approval because only four Board members were present after the recusals.
Barbara Pomerantz, architect for the applicant addressed the Board and asked for a waiver of the
notification provision of the Village Code requiring the posting of a sign at the subject property.
Mr. Goodman explained that when certain notice requirements are not complied with, the
application is generally removed from the agenda. The Village Code permits the Planning Board
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
to waive the public notice sign requirement, but a request for a waiver would require a unanimous
vote for approval.
The applicant stated that they wanted the Board to vote on the waiver request and Mrs. Gray was
asked to read the resolution:
RESOLUTION
WAIVING THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT OF
POSTING A SIGN ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
PRIOR TO A PLANNING BOARD MEETING
THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK PLANNING BOARD
WHEREAS, Section 240-40(A) requires that at least seven (7) days prior to a Planning
Board meeting, a public notification sign shall be posted on the property which is the subject of
an application to be heard at such meeting; and
WHEREAS, Section 250-40(G) permits the Planning Board to waive the notification
requirements set forth in Section 250-40 unless required elsewhere by county or state law; and
WHEREAS, neither county nor state law requires an applicant to post a public
notification sign on property subject to a pending application prior to a meeting of the Planning
Board at which such application will be heard; and
WHEREAS, the site plan and wetland permit application for 2 Hillandale Road is on the
July 11, 2013 agenda of the Planning Board, but the Applicant did not post a sign at least seven
(7) days prior to the Planning Board meeting.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of the Village of
Rye Brook hereby waives the requirement that a public notice sign be posted for application of 2
Hillandale Road for the purposes of the Planning Board's July 11, 2013 meeting.
A motion for a vote was made by Mrs. Schoen, and seconded by Mr. Accurso, after which there
was discussion by the Board.
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
Mr. Goodman stated that his view on waiving notification was changing. He went on to say that
the last time this issue came before the Board on another application he stated he would deny any
waiver requests received by the Board because notification is important for the public. However,
because the limited action before the Board tonight is a referral to the Zoning Board of Appeals
for consideration of the variance, he was hesitant to remove it from the agenda.
Mrs. Schoen agreed with Mr. Goodman in this case, but stated that the notification requirement is
important and should be complied with.
Mr. Accurso added that waiver requests have been made before, and he has always voted against
waiving notification.
Mr. Grzan agreed with the Acting Chairman..
Mrs. Rebecca Oling addressed the Board and stated her reasons for requesting that the Board
waive notification, stating that of all of the people they needed to inform by certified letter, all but
4 were notified verbally.
Mrs. Gray advised the applicant that letter notification is required for a Public Hearing, not the
current meeting. However, posting a notification sign at the subject property is required of every
applicant for every appearance before the Planning Board, regardless of whether it is a Public
Hearing.
The Acting Chairman asked Mr. Nowak to call the roll for the vote, and the request for approval
to waive notification did not carry:
MR. ACCURSO NO
MR. GOODMAN YES
MR. GRZAN YES
MRS. SCHOEN YES
Acting Chairman Goodman adjourned the application to the July 25, 2013 Planning Board
meeting.
The Chairman and Mr. Tartaglia returned to the Board.
The Chairman recalled the 147 North Ridge Street application and continued the Public
Hearing.
Mr. Boender addressed the Board and advised that the applicant decided to amend the fence plan
and look into changing the fence material. The Application was adjourned to the July 25, 2013
Planning Board meeting.
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
The Chairman called for a brief recess. After the recess, the Chairman called for the next
agenda item.
3. Discussion of a Local Law referral from the Board of Trustees regarding
application referrals to the Planning Board from the Board of Trustees, and
discussion of possible amendments to Village Code regarding Planning Board
approval authority.
• Consideration of a Report and Recommendation
Chairman Zuckerman stated that there was extensive discussion at the last meeting and a draft
Report and Recommendation was prepared. The local law was referred to the Planning Board by
the Board of Trustees, and it would remove the requirement for mandatory referral to the
Planning Board for site plan applications that are in the jurisdiction of the Board of Trustees.
Mandatory referral would be replaced by discretionary referral to the Planning Board. He noted
that the Mayor and Trustee Heiser were in the audience to provide information to the Board and
to answer any questions regarding the amendments.
The Chairman asked Mrs. Gray to read the draft Report and Recommendations and asked for
comments from the Planning Board.
Mrs. Schoen was concerned about the addition of discretion, which is subjective, to the objective
process of site plan review. She believes that adding discretion may lead to not having a reason
to refer any applications to the Planning Board for their opinion.
Mayor Rosenberg asked to be heard and responded that when he came into office he wanted to
streamline the land use review process in Rye Brook to make it more efficient. One of the ways
to do this is to eliminate appearances before multiple Boards that he feels are not necessary.
After meeting with Mr. Nowak, the Village Administrator and the Building Inspector, it was
evident that certain applications propose minor changes that do not need to be reviewed by the
Planning Board. He noted that there may also be applications that would not need to go back to
the Board of Trustees after being referred to and reviewed by the Planning Board, if the Planning
Board were to be given approval authority for additional types of applications. The Trustees
would like to have the ability to give the Planning Board final approval authority on certain
applications. So the Trustees need criteria to decide which applications should not be referred to
the Planning Board, and which applications, once referred, can be approved by the Planning
Board without going back to the Board of Trustees.
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
Chairman Zuckerman reiterated the goal of eliminating referrals for certain applications. It was
suggested that certain applications could start review at the Planning Board, thereby requiring
only one referral to the Board of Trustees for review and action.
Chairman Zuckerman suggested that the Trustees should have jurisdiction over larger project
applications and the Planning Board should continue to provide its recommendations on
applications that include planning and environmental issues when the Trustees have approval
authority. However, applications involving minor changes, even minor changes to large
developments, do not, in his opinion, need to go to the Board of Trustees. Such applications
should start review at the Planning Board and stay with the Planning Board for final
determination.
Mr. Tartaglia added that he believes the biggest problem is redundancy of review. He believes
that land use applications that require special permits, zoning changes, or map changes should be
reviewed and approved by the Board of Trustees, and should be referred to the Planning Board
for report and recommendations to the Trustees. However, subdivisions and site plans should be
reviewed and approved by the Planning Board.
Mrs. Schoen stated that the changes under discussion should be reviewed during the
Comprehensive Plan process, and before the changes are formulated research should be
conducted, such as surveying the land use approval processes of other local communities.
Mr. Goodman added that a task force is always a good idea to take on research and develop
recommendations to the Trustees, and task forces have done good work in the past on similar
projects.
Chairman Zuckerman agreed with Mr. Goodman's suggestion.
Mr. Accurso stated that he believes this is an issue that was looked at years ago and recalled that
Mrs. Mohamed had compiled research regarding approval authority in other communities.
Mayor Rosenberg said he believes the work was done for a committee put together by Mayor
Rand, and that it is available on the Village website.
Chairman Zuckerman did not want to call for a vote on the draft report and recommendations
regarding the local law until it was revised based on the discussion at the meeting and a
recommendation was added that the Board of Trustees consider forming a committee to study the
issue of referrals and approval authority changes. He considers the issues to be important and
ones that require collaboration between the two boards to develop amendments that provide
efficiency in the review process without sacrificing thoroughness.
5. Discussion of a Local Law referral from the Board of Trustees for an
amendment to Village Code Section 250-4.1 regarding permanent standby
backup generators.
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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULARMEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday July 11, 2013 - 8:00 p.m
Chairman Zuckerman explained that the amendments involve streamlining the review process for
the installation of permanent standby backup generators on residential properties. Mayor
Rosenberg explained that more property owners are applying to install permanent standby backup
generators because of the increased number and severity of storms in recent years that cause
power outages. Many of the applications for backup generators require variances related to the
proposed locations of the generators.
The Mayor went on to explain that the Board of Trustees wants to make it easier for applicants to
locate the generators with other outdoor mechanical equipment, and reduce the complexity of the
review process. The proposed local law would eliminate the current setback requirements, and
add requirements to encourage collocation with other equipment, criteria for screening of the
equipment, and eliminate review by the Architectural Review Board when vegetative screening
complying with the new criteria is proposed. Chairman Zuckerman asked about proposed
generators located on corner lots. He also believes that a commercial business located in a
residential district that applies for a backup generator should not be subject to site plan review
because they should have the same considerations as residents.
Mr. Tartaglia expressed his belief that residential homes need the protection of a review by
Planning Board when a commercial business in a residential neighborhood applies for installation
of a permanent standby backup generator. Mr. Tartaglia also felt that certain aspects of the
legislation should be reviewed carefully, particularly the criteria that require absolute adherence
because there will be many situations that will not be able to completely meet absolute
requirements.
Chairman Zuckerman agreed with Mr. Tartaglia that co-locating generators with other equipment
may not be possible in every situation.
Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed added that the location of generators on corner lots will be guided by
the determination by the Building Inspector of the locations of the rear and side yards on the
property. Once the yard determination is made, the same rules apply to corner lots.
Mayor Rosenberg noted that additional proposed legislation will be referred to the Planning
Board during the next several months. The Trustees will be amending the Scenic Roads Overlay
District regulations to reduce the need for front yard setback variances, and eliminate site plan
review for additions that are within rear yards. The Board is working with FP Clark and Keane
and Beane to allow certain changes of use in shopping centers without site plan review. And the
Board of Trustees will consider legislation to eliminate site plan review for certain modifications
of single family homes that do not require variances.
Chairman Zuckerman asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting and on a motion made by Mrs.
Schoen and seconded by Mr. Grzan, the meeting was adjourned at 10:18 p.m. by unanimous voice
vote.
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