HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-11-18 - Planning Board Meeting Minutes VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
VILLAGE HALL,938 KING STREET
Thursday November 18, 2010 - 8:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
MINUTES
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Review of a Site Plan Application by Brian and Ellen Berk to legalize a rear yard sports
court, spa, chain link fence, regrading of property, steep slopes and wetland permitting
for parcel located at 11 Edgewood Drive,Rye Brook,NY parcel ID 135.28-1-21
• Considering a Resolution
NEW BUSINESS
CONTINUED BUSINESS
2. Referral from Board of Trustees to Review a Site Plan Application by Doral Arrowood
on behalf of American DG Energy to install and operate a cogeneration station for
parcel located at 975 Anderson Hill Road, Rye Brook,NY parcel ID 129.34-1-43,44,45
• Considering a Report and Recommendation to the Board of Trustees
3. Referral from Board of Trustees to review a request by Cuddy and Feder on behalf of
Reekson Operating Partnership, LLP for Phase 3 Site Plan and Wetland Permit
Approval extensions for parcel located at 1100 King Street, Rye Brook, NY parcel ID
129.34-1-43,44,45
• Considering a Report and Recommendation to the Board of Trustees
DISCUSSION ITEMS
ACTION ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS
Subject to consent of Planning Board Members present at the meeting.
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PRESENT
BOARD Mr. Dominick Accurso
Mr. Robert Goodman
Mr. John Grzan
Mrs. Amy Schoen
Mr. Dan Tartaglia
Chairman Gary Zuckerman
EXCUSED Mr. Bill Laufer
STAFF Mrs. Marilyn Timpone-Mohamed,Village Planning Consultant
Ms. Amanda Kandel,Village Counsel
Mr. Mike Nowak,Acting Village Engineer
Ms. Shari Melillo,Planning Board Secretary
Chairman Zuckerman opened the meeting by asking everyone to join him in the Pledge
of Allegiance. He then introduced the Board members and the Village Staff to the
audience and explained the rules of procedure for the meeting. Additionally, Chairman
Zuckerman made note for the public that the complete set of Planning Board Rules and
Procedures can be found on the Village website and also announced that the public can
now view the Planning Board minutes via streaming video on the Village website.
The Chairman called for the first item on the agenda:
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Review of a Site Plan Application by Brian and Ellen Berk to legalize a rear yard
sports court, spa, chain link fence, regrading of property, steep slopes and wetland
permitting for parcel located at 11 Edgewood Drive, Rye Brook, NY parcel ID 135.28-
1-21
• Considering a Resolution
On a motion made by Mr. Grzan and seconded by Mr. Goodman, the Public Hearing was
opened by unanimous voice vote.
Mr. Gioffre of Cuddy and Feder addressed the Board and gave a brief description of the
application and noted that, since their prior appearance before the Board last month, all
materials requested have been submitted and a site visit was performed.
Mr. Jim Ryan of John Myer Consulting addressed the Board stating that a site walk on
the property was done and it allowed them to review the outstanding issues. They are in
receipt of the memo from Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed and are addressing all of her
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concerns. One area of concern was the survey which required some clarification and
revisions to the labeling of dimensions, which are now accurately shown on the site
plans. The extent of the disturbance area, the amount of fill placed, and the make-up of
the fill were reviewed and verified during the site visit attended by Mr. Nowak and Mrs.
Mohamed. A Geotechnical Engineer was brought in and a pit test was dug to a depth of
6-7 feet. At that depth undisturbed soil was reached and it was determined that the fill
material used was good quality fill. There was no visual evidence of any environmental
contamination; therefore, it was agreed that the fill used is acceptable, and the grading
and new slopes are stabile and appropriately constructed.
Mr. Ryan added that according to the Geotechnical Engineer, and based on the visual
inspection of the fill, there is no need for further testing of the fill. The Geotechnical
Engineer provided a report of findings for the Board to review. In regard to drainage, the
proposed trench drain extends along half of the perimeter of the sports court to detain the
stormwater run-off from the court and reduce the speed of flow toward the wetland area.
Mr. Mike Nowak, Village Engineer, addressed the Board and stated that during the site
visit he and Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed witnessed the deep hole test being performed. It
showed that the fill material was visually clean; i.e., there was no discoloration, or
suspect material within in fill layer. Natural grade was encountered from 3.5 to 4 feet to
6 feet below grade. In regard to stabilization of the slopes, the applicant is proposes to
install a geo textile mat to stabilize the steepest area of the slope where some surface
erosion was observed. He added that there is no sign of movement or shifting of the fill,
which has been in place for 5 years.
Mr. Ryan addressed the suggestion that sub-surface drainage facilities, such as dry wells
or Cultee units be installed instead of the trench drain. It is his opinion, that installing a
sub-surface drainage system in a steep hillside is inappropriate as it may undermine the
stability of the slope.
The trench drain system and plantings proposed will detain the run-off slowing its
velocity while maintaining a more natural sheet flow and lessening the potential for
surface erosion of the slope. Mr.Nowak concurred with Mr. Ryan's assessment.
Mrs. Mohamed responded that the efficacy of the proposed slope stabilization plan will
be determined after review of the specific plant material proposed is completed. While
she still has a concern regarding the extent of the limits of disturbance after the site visit,
she recognizes, due to fact the fill has been in place for five years, it is difficult if not
impossible to accurately determine the actual extent of the area of the property that was
graded to construct the sports court, in part because the vegetation in the area has grown
significantly during the five years since the grading was performed. The extent of the
disturbance in the buffer shown on the site plan, would not require a wetlands permit
according to the Village Code.
Mrs. Schoen asked about the types of vegetation proposed.
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Mrs. Mohamed responded that some of it will be ground cover and shrubs. As there is a
heavy tree canopy,the plant species would have to be tolerant of shade.
As a final comment, Mrs. Mohamed would like the fence around the sports court to
remain at the same height it is now but it should be moved back from the neighbor's
property line so that additional screening can be added on the Berk property.
Mr. Grzan stated that while he does not approve the approach the applicant took, he
believes the scars from the grading seem to have healed. He asked if this was 5 years ago
and we were reviewing the application before construction instead of after, would we be
looking for anything else to be done.
Mr. Gioffre reiterated that Mr. Berk relied to his detriment on the opinion of his
consultants that the construction did not require a permit.
Mr. Accurso wanted to discuss stormwater management as he is confused as well as
concerned.
Mr. Ryan explained that they are capturing the stormwater run-off without creating a
major disturbance to steep slopes by using a trench drain. The trench drain will allow for
detention and infiltration without creating a point discharge and the overflow will go
down the hill in a sheet and the flow will be slower as well.
Mr. Accurso asked if this were a new application, would it be required to have on-site
detention?
Mr. Ryan responded yes it would and probably in or near the buffer area. However, to do
it now would have a potential negative impact on stabile slopes. In his opinion, the
volume flowing through the buffer is not significant and what they have proposed will
slow the velocity down and provide some detention. Mr. Nowak stated the proposed
stormwater is adequate and agrees with the approach.
Mr. Tartaglia asked if the property owner at#15 is having any runoff issues. The owner
of that property, who was present in the audience, responded he is not. Mr. Tartaglia
asked about the 6 test pits that were mentioned in the letter as he does not see them
located on the plans. Mr. Ryan responded that they are described in the report and
indicated on one of the plans.
Chairman Zuckerman wanted to poll the Board on the sports court requiring a 3.82 foot
variance and if the Board wanted to require that the sport court be moved 3.82 feet by the
applicant to eliminate the need for the variance.
Mr. Gioffre responded that as discussed at the last meeting, while the sports court does
require a variance, the Zoning Board will be concerned with the impact on the neighbors.
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The Chairman noted that the Planning Board can approve the sport court as it is subject to
the Zoning Board granting the variance or we can approve a sport court that does not
require such a variance.
Mr. Grzan said what is done is done and he wants to hear from the neighbor.
Mr. Goodman is only concerned with the screening with the fence and agrees that what's
done is done.
Mr. Accurso is also concerned with the screening and added that variances run with the
land and wanted that noted.
Mrs. Schoen agrees and believes going back over it does not serve a purpose. She feels
the proposed screening is not sufficient and wants more screening around the spa area.
Mr. Tartaglia is not as concerned with screening but will go with majority of the Board
on that subject. He can't see making the applicant move the court in his opinion, this is
not a structure, and it is at grade just like a patio. His concerns are the steep slopes and
the drainage, but after 5 years, it is still stable and he would just as soon leave well
enough alone.
Mr. Sam Schwartzman, 15 Edgewood Drive, addressed the Board in support of the
application. He has had no problem with flooding and he has no problem in regard to the
aesthetics, adding that they can barely see the sports court from their house.
As there are no further comments or questions, Chairman Zuckerman called for a motion
to adjourn the application to December 9th.
Mr. Gioffre requested that the Board close the Public Hearing tonight and as there were
no objections, Chairman Zuckerman called for a motion to close the Public Hearing.
On a motion made by Mrs. Schoen and seconded by Mr. Grzan, the Public Hearing was
closed and Mr.Nowak called the roll:
MR. ACCURSO YES
MR. GOODMAN YES
MR. GRZAN YES
MRS. SCHOEN YES
MR. TARTAGLIA YES
CHAIRMAN ZUCKERMAN YES
Chairman Zuckerman called for the next item on the agenda:
CONTINUED BUSINESS
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2. Referral from Board of Trustees to Review a Site Plan Application by Doral
Arrowood on behalf of American DG Energy to install and operate a cogeneration
station for parcel located at 975 Anderson Hill Road,Rye Brook,NY parcel ID 129.34-
1-43,44,45
29.34-
1-43,44,45
• Considering a Report and Recommendation to the Board of Trustees
Mr. Mastromonaco addressed the Board noting that he has submitted material to the
Village since the last meeting that addresses two sets of comments regarding air quality
issues.
Chairman Zuckerman asked about the actual siting of the facility and if it could be
moved, in his opinion to benefit the facility, toward the north away from the parking lot.
He believes where it is proposed crowds the parking lot tremendously.
Mr. Chris Grey of American DG Energy addressed the Board and pointed out that it is
actually tucked behind the cooling towers and will be placed so the conduits can be
placed in a straight run.
Mrs. Kandel responded that was not how it was shown on the plans and the plans need to
reflect what will actually take place.
Mr. Tartaglia added that looking at the site plan he sees a lot of discrepancies in regard to
the location of the facility, the piping and the conduits.
Chairman Zuckerman stated that we will go through the rest of the plan tonight and if
matters are incomplete, they can be addressed at the next meeting.
Mrs. Mohamed discussed some of her concerns that were brought up in her letter to the
applicant. She was hoping for a more naturalistic plant scheme. She has asked for
additional information which has not yet been provided, including information on any
easements or leases at the site. A full EAF was provided as was information on
emissions, air quality, and noise. NYSERDA (New York State Energy Recovery
Development Association) considers the two installations on the property to be a single
system so when analyzing impacts to air quality the cumulative effect of both
installations should be looked at together.
Mr. Grzan stated that after reading the HDR report, if the air quality permit is not
required then a lot of the issues being discussed will go away. There is an interconnection
agreement with Con Ed that is required and he believes that the Board is continuing in
vain to discuss this application until the major players are on board such as Con Ed and
the DEC.
Mr. Tartaglia asked the applicant about the NYSERDA incentive monies and if they have
gotten the application in as there is a November 30th deadline, to which the applicant
responded they had.
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Mr. Tartaglia's other concern is the poor design of the enclosure building and believes
screening and landscaping are going to be important.
Mr. Mike Muso of HDR, Engineering Consultants for the Village, addressed the Board
and introduced the project manager for this application, Noemi Santiago, who was the
primary author of the November 11th report. She will speak to the air quality and noise
issues.
Ms. Noemi Santiago addressed the Board and stated that they have reviewed the
application and information provided by applicant and did a site visit as well. She agrees
with Mr. Grzan that the Village should follow up with Con Edison on the issuance of the
permit required. The safety operations and maintenance manual calls for a lot of safety
follow up and the Village should require the applicant to prepare a health and safety plan
(HASP) to be followed during operation and maintenance that includes an emergency
plan as well as procedures for lock out and tag out.
In regard to noise, they reviewed the noise data the manufacturer provided and existing
noise monitoring was performed near the cooling tower both while the tower was and
was not in operation. The applicant provided noise monitoring performed by the
manufacturer to give an indication of the noise level of the source. After comparing this
noise to the existing noise, they found it would not be increased more than 6 dba which is
the standard required by the DEC. It is only an increase of about 4 dba which is less than
what is allowed. The applicant is adding attenuators which will reduce the noise output as
well and the findings will be included in the final report after the remaining calculations
are done. An attenuator is a duct that is made of a material to reduce the noise. They do,
however,recommend that operation during night time hours be limited.
In regard to air quality,New York State DEC would require permits or registration of the
units as well as the Westchester County Health Department. However, according to the
applicant the units will be exempt as per the regulations. HDR suggests the applicant
confirm that with the DEC. There are certain regulations that still need to be followed
like record keeping for a period of 5 years. They had also requested that a "potential to
emit" calculation be provided by the applicant and they have done so and it is being
reviewed.
The report points out that the nox (nitric oxide) emissions from the units need to be
included in Arrowwood's total calculation for nox emissions when determining if they
would require a Title 5 permit.
Mr. Grzan states that as he understands our process in this case, it leads to a permit to
construct not a pen-nit to operate and this won't go anywhere until the other entities act
first.
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Chairman Zuckennan added that we have to set forth as completely as possible all the
aspects of this application so that the Board of Trustees can make a decision based on this
Board's recommendation. To do that, we need to make sure all of the information
requested is provided so that when we submit our report to the Board of Trustees, it will
be complete.
Mr. Grzan would also like the Fire Department involved as this is a high voltage unit.
Mr. Grey added that whatever permitting they are required to get they will certainly get.
The facility permit is already in process and they are moving forward with the
NYSERDA report; however he believes some of the other permits mentioned may not be
required.
Mr. Grey added that the units are closest to the hotel. and if they are too loud, the hotel
will require us to fix the problem. We did not submit lease agreements because they
contain confidential information. His company is putting 2 million dollars into this
project of which they will receive $375,000 from NYSERDA through the grant program
and they would not invest this kind of money into this project if we didn't think we could
get the permits we needed to operate it. If this Board requests we move the units,we will
move them to expedite the process.
Adjourned to December 9th
The Chairman called for the next item on the agenda:
3. Referral from Board of Trustees to review a request by Cuddy and Feder on
behalf of Reckson Operating Partnership, LLP for Phase 3 Site Plan and Wetland
Permit Approval extensions for parcel located at 1100 King Street, Rye Brook, NY
parcel ID 129.34-1-43,44, 45
• Considering a Report and Recommendation to the Board of Trustees
Mr. William Null of Cuddy and Feder addressed the Board at which time, Mr. Tartaglia
recused himself because he has represented Reckson in the past.
Mr. Null respectfully requested that the Board make a recommendation tonight due to the
Public Hearing with the Board of Trustees scheduled for December 14"' as they are
concerned about having time to do the required notifications.
Mrs. Kandel responded that as the Public Hearing is set for 12/14 it can be noticed, and if
there is an issue, the Board of Trustees can open the Public Hearing on that date and
adjourn it.
Mr. Schwalbe, Site Engineer for the applicant, addressed the Board and noted they had
received a letter from Dolph Rotfeld Engineering last Friday and had responded to the
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Village this week. The main detention basin has already been constructed and the project
will install additional basins to provide additional water quality improvements. Mr.
Rotfeld's comments were primarily related to water volumes in the basins. Mr. Schwalbe
showed the Board pictures of the basins and their locations. The remainder of the
comments requested more information and details which they provided.
Mr. Rotfeld of Dolph Rotfeld Engineering, consultant for the Village, addressed the
Board and stated that they had looked through the work presented and in his opinion it
looks good. In regard to the concern about building a basin in a flood plain, he believes
there is confusion on this issue based on the county map. According to the latest County
map the existing detention basin is shown as part of the flood plain. He has no problem
with the proposed plan and believes it is a good plan.
Mr. Grzan asked what we are trying to prove or demonstrate here and how is it related to
the construction plan that was approved in 2005.
Mr. Schwalbe responded that the original site plan application was approved in 2000.
That plan was designed to the standards and good practices in place at that time.
Chairman Zuckerman was concerned and wanted to be sure the plan met today's
requirements and best practices.
Mr. Schwalbe added that in regard to a federal permit, Mr. Bill Kenney spoke with the
Army Corp of Engineers and they indicated that it wasn't needed. They are in the process
of getting documentation to that effect from them.
Chairman Zuckerman adjourned the application to December 9th and stated that he will
be working with Counsel on a draft of Report. It will also most likely address the fact that
there may be too much parking proposed. The Report may contain a provision to
eliminate some of the required parking, which will therefore eliminate some of the
impervious surface and reduce stormwater run-off.
Mr.Null noted that the stormwater improvements are already under construction.
Chairman Zuckerman responded that it would be just something for the Board of
Trustees to look at and consider. There is currently a substantial amount of parking at this
location that is not used, as was noted by the applicant. The Board of Trustees will have a
thorough report from the Planning Board before them when they review the application,
which may shorten the applicant's time before the Board of Trustees.
Chairman Zuckerman called for a motion to adjourn and on a motion made by Mrs.
Schoen and seconded by Mr. Grzan, the meeting was adjourned at 10:06 pm.
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