HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-02-14 - Planning Board Meeting Minutes February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
PLANNING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
Thursday February 14, 2008 - 8:00 p.m.
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ROLL CALL
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Site Plan review of an Application by Walter G. Nestler on behalf of Mr. And Mrs.
Dan Wurtzel for Wetlands and Steep Slopes Work Permits for construction of an in-
ground pool and spa at 43 Meadowlark Road, Rye Brook, NY, Section 129.84,
Block 1, Lot 9 in the R-20 Zoning District.
NEW BUSINESS
2. Site Plan review of an Application by Steven Marchesani for a second story and
garage addition, new curb cut and other site improvements at 282 North Ridge
Street, Rye Brook, NY, Section 135.27, Block 1, Lot 10 in the R-15 Zoning
District.
• Considering a Resolution to schedule a Public Hearing.
MINUTES
3. Review and approval of minutes
DISCUSSION ITEMS
ACTION ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS
Subject to consent of Planning Board Members present at the meeting.
THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
February 28, 2008 and March 13, 2008.
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February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
PRESENT
BOARD Mr. John Grzan
Mr. Warren Agatston
Mrs. Michele Fredman
Mr. Bill Laufer
Mr. Domenic Accurso
Chairman Gary Zuckerman
EXCUSED Mrs. Amy Schoen
STAFF Mrs. Amanda Kandel, Village Counsel
Mrs. Marilyn Timpone-Mohamed, Village Planning Consultant
Mr. Victor G. Carosi, P.E., Village Engineer
Mr. Mike Nowak, Jr. Village Engineer
Ms. Shari Melillo, Planning Board Secretary
Chairman Zuckerman opened the meeting by asking everyone to join him in the Pledge
of Allegiance. He then introduced the Board members and the Village Staff to the
audience, explained the rules of procedure for the meeting and made note for the public
that the complete set of Planning Board Rules and Procedures can be found on the
Village web site.
Chairman Zuckerman called for the first item on the agenda:
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Site Plan review of an Application by Walter G. Nestler on behalf of Mr. And
Mrs. Dan Wurtzel for Wetlands and Steep Slopes Work Permits for
construction of an in-ground pool and spa at 43 Meadowlark Road, Rye
Brook, NY, Section 129.84, Block 1, Lot 9 in the R-20 Zoning District.
Chairman Zuckerman asked for a motion to open the Public Hearing and on a motion
made by Mrs. Fredman and seconded by Mr. Agatston, the roll was called:
Mr. Accurso Yes
Mr. Agatston Yes
Mrs. Fredman Yes
Mr. Grzan Yes
Mr. Laufer Yes
Chairman Zuckerman Yes
Motion carried.
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February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
Mr. Walter Nestler, Landscape Architect for the applicant, addressed the Board and
thanked them for taking the time to perform a site visit. Mr. Nestler distributed a hand out
to the Board members that responded to comments/observations made by the Board at the
last meeting and he addressed changes made to the site plan.
Chairman Zuckerman explained that the purpose of a site visit by the Board is to view a
site. Board members should not make comments to an applicant during a site visit.
Mr. Nestler discussed the site survey and explained how a stream divides the property
into a useable area adjacent to the rear of the home and an inaccessible wooded area on
the other side of the stream. When discussing steep slopes and heavy tree cover on the
property, he stated that erosion is noticeable along the slope. He added that he is working
with the Village Engineer regarding the storm water management plan and a retention
basin is proposed as an alternative to the original stormwater management system. The
basin would have the capacity to hold runoff from the roof He also described the stream
that runs through the site, describing it as an intermittent stream coming from a culvert
under the Hutchinson River Parkway that is active during heavy rains.
Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed addressed the Board. She reviewed the application and noted
the revisions made to the plan. She noted concerns with the proposed retention basin,
saying the basin would increase disturbance to the buffer because construction of the
basin may require bringing fill into the rear yard. Although a detention basin is permitted,
and it is an acceptable storm water management technique, it is not appropriate in this
case because it would take up most of the usable rear yard of the home, it would not help
resolve the steep slopes issue because construction of the basin would create new steep
slopes that would be located closer to the stream and the removal of additional trees and
the location of the basin itself would negatively impact s the functioning of the buffer.
There would also be safety and maintenance issues attached to an open basin on a small
residential property. If the Board were to determine the basin acceptable, the applicant
should submit a detailed monitoring and maintenance plan for the entire storm water
management facility.
Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed stated that five additional trees would be removed if the basin
were to be installed and the locations of remaining trees on the site were not properly
identified on the current set of plans. In addition, she noted that potential noise from the
pool equipment has not been addressed.
Mr. Carosi addressed the Board. He stated concerns for the long-term maintenance of the
proposed storm water management basin. He said the Applicant should provide detailed
long term maintenance plans should the basin proposal ultimately move forward. He too
had concerns about disturbances to existing steep slopes, as well as creating new steep
slopes, with the construction of the proposed pond, including the potential for movement
or failure of the slopes supporting the basin over time. Detailed installation and
inspection procedures to insure that the pond slopes are adequately constructed would be
required.
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February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
Chairman Zuckerman asked about the change in stone water management technique and
whether there were meetings held between Village staff and the project consultant, Mr.
Carosi responded that he was a little surprised at the technique chosen for storm water
management and that there were no meetings or discussions between the consultant and
Village staff. Chairman Zuckerman added that the Board should consider the
acceptability of the technique suggested, in light of comments from the staff.
Mr. Agatston noted that on the original plans there were two sets of walls proposed in the
area of the existing steep slopes. He said he did not understand why the second wall was
removed from the site plan. He felt the wall would alleviate some of the concerns with
the slopes and he also believed the original plans for the storm water management was
closer to what the Board was looking for. He noted the plan has moved in a different
direction from what was originally proposed and he personally was not happy with the
proposed changes.
Mrs. Fredman had multiple concerns including the potential for bringing fill onto the site,
asking if the higher elevation closer to the house was being increased by the plan. Mr.
Nestler responded that the upper level adjacent to the rear of the home was not being
increased. In the new plan soil from excavation of the swimming pool would be used to
construct the retention basin, eliminating the need to add or remove soil from the site. He
acknowledged the basin would be an unorthodox approach for the site because of the
safety issue; however, he proposed relocating the safety fencing surrounding the
swimming pool to include the basin, which should satisfy the safety concerns.
Mr. Nestler added that the property is somewhat secluded on a cul-de-sac. He stated there
is nothing in the back yard but the woods that include a gas line easement, which
effectively eliminates any development potential of the unused area of the property.
Mr. Grzan stated that he does not favor the revised plan. He believes it is an interesting
solution, but does not believe it is practical. Mr. Grzan suggested the applicant should sit
down with the Village staff to develop an acceptable plan. He also believes that the basin
will overflow at some point and is concerned about overflow during a severe storm.
Mr. Accurso asked for the capacity of the basin. Mr. Nestler responded that the holding
capacity of the original storm water plan was 884 cubic feet of water; however, the
revised plan, with the basin, doubled the retention capacity of the system. Mr. Accurso
believes a storm water basin on a small residential property is not common, adding that
storm water retention basins are usually reserved for larger subdivisions, such as Red
Roof Farms or commercial properties such as the Reckson corporate office park. Mr.
Accurso asked who is responsible for maintaining the existing stream. Mr. Carosi
explained that the property owner would be responsible for maintaining the stream. Mr.
Accurso concurred with the other Board members that the retention basin proposal was
not practical or desirable on the subject property.
Chairman Zuckerman stated that he was disturbed that the applicant changed the concept
of the plan without discussion with Village staff. He said he would like the applicant to
meet with the Village Engineer and Village Planning Consultant to discuss the issues in
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order to develop a plan that reflects the best way to manage storm water so that the Board
can move forward. He added that if the modifications to the original plan discussed at the
first meeting had been implemented rather than the major concept revision presented
tonight, the application could have been approved this evening. Chairman Zuckerman
suggested an adjournment of the application for one month to give the applicant time to
meet with Village staff and submit revised plans.
Mrs. Mohamed asked to speak, saying she liked the idea of keeping excavated soil on
site; however she would not recommend a retention basin on a residential property for
safety and maintenance concerns. Mrs. Mohamed added that potential erosion of the
steep slopes of the basin would cause major maintenance problems and imperil the water
quality of the stream. However, if the applicant were to remove the basin, re-grade the
yard using excavated soil to create a gentle slope and put "Cul-tec" units into the area
under the re-graded slope, the applicant can avoid removing soil from the site, eliminate
steep slopes, and the storm water facility would be underground, making maintenance of
the system easier.
Mrs. Fredman asked about the pool equipment noise and if that issue had been resolved.
Mr. Nestler responded that the equipment would be located at the lower level corner of
the house and be screened by evergreen plantings. He stated the equipment would be
modern and quiet. Further, he said, the applicant would be willing to install a solid fence
around the equipment, but does not believe noise will be a problem,
Chairman Zuckerman asked for a motion to adjourn the application to the 27th of March
2008 and on a motion made by Mr. Agatston and seconded by Mrs. Fredman, the roll was
called:
Mr. Accurso Yes
Mr. Agatston Yes
Mrs. Fredman Yes
Mr. Grzan Yes
Mr. Laufer Yes
Chairman Zuckerman Yes
Chairman Zuckerman called for the next item on the agenda:
NEW BUSINESS
2. Site Plan review of an Application by Steven Marchesani for a second story
and garage addition, new curb cut and other site improvements at 282 North
Ridge Street, Rye Brook, NY, Section 135.27, Block 1, Lot 10 in the R-15
Zoning District.
• Considering a Resolution to schedule a Public Hearing.
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February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
Mr. Agatston noted that he observed there was no meeting notice sign on the property
and asked if a sign has been installed. Village staff responded that a meeting notice sign
was installed.
Chairman Zuckerman stated that he believes that the project as proposed may require
substantial revision so the Board should handle it as a "sketch plan" review. Chairman
Zuckerman made a disclosure noting that he has employed the architect for a project in
the past for remodeling of his home. He said that prior to the Planning Board meeting, he
requested the Ethics Board consider if his professional relationship with the architect
would present any conflicts. He stated to the Board and the public that the Ethics Board
advised him that no conflict exists.
Mr. Marchesani addressed the Board and gave a brief overview of the project. He
explained that overall impervious surface coverage of the property would be reduced by
over 1,100 square feet and that the circular driveway was proposed to eliminate the need
to back a vehicle out onto North Ridge Street.
Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed addressed the Board noting that the existing home has zoning
non-conformities, including a non-complying front-yard resulting from adoption of the
Scenic Roads Overlay District (SROD), and a non-complying side yard and total of two
side yards. The proposed circular driveway, the additions and the increase in gross floor
area would create new non-conformities that would require variances for approval of the
site plan as proposed, including front-yard set-back variance of 14 feet for the proposed
second floor/ front porch extension; a front-yard variance of 11.27 feet for the new
garage; a 7-foot side-yard variance for the new garage; a 7-foot variance from the
minimum total of two side yards; a 637-foot variance from the allowable gross floor area;
and a variance for parking in the front yard SROD buffer for the circular driveway. The
circular driveway would also require d an additional curb cut on North Ridge Street.
Mrs. Timpone-Mohamed recommended alternate means to safely exit the property that
would not require an additional curb cut, suggesting a straight-in driveway with a turn-
around area and that the applicant consider a more developed landscape plan to create a
vegetated buffer along the road and locate screening along the driveway. She stated the
grading plan needs a little more work and the Village Engineer should review the erosion
and sediment control plans.
Mr. Agatston stated his concern regarding the encroachment of the home into the SROD
buffer. He would like to see a revised plan that eliminates the encroachment. He also
believes there are too many variances required by the current plan and that it should also
be looked at again to see if the number of variances required could be reduced.
Mrs. Fredman agreed with Mr. Agatston and would also like to see additional landscape
improvements.
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Chairman Zuckerman said he would like the applicant to rework the plan and believes
that the circular driveway should be eliminated. In doing so, three areas of concern -
parking, curb cuts and extent of impervious surface coverage could thereby be reduced or
eliminated. He also agreed that the variances should be reduced as much as possible. He
added that the Board would like to see revised plans addressing the concerns expressed
before the applicant comes back before the Board. At that time the decision can be made
whether the application should go before the Zoning Board of Appeals prior to Planning
Board approval. If the variances are sufficiently minimized or eliminated, we may be able
to make a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals. He requested that the
applicant meet with the Village Planner and Village staff to develop a more acceptable
plan and stated that the Board should adjourn review of the project for one month to give
the applicant time to meet with the Planner and Village staff and submit revised plans.
Mr. Accurso added that he had concerns regarding the calculation of the height of the
proposed building even though the elevation drawing indicates the height would be 26.6
feet. He added that he was concerned that the proposed home might tower over the
neighboring homes and believes the height of the building should be carefully reviewed
as well.
The homeowner addressed the Board, thanking them for understanding that the notice
sign was knocked down by severe weather. He asked why the new garage would be non-
complying if it does not protrude into the front yard any further than what is there now.
Chairman Zuckerman explained that the garage would need a variance because it extends
into the required yard setbacks.
Mrs. Mohamed added that the Planning Board cannot approve the plan unless the Zoning
Board approves the variances.
She also explained that the second curb cut must be approved by Westchester County.
The homeowner explained that the existing garage under the rear of the home is subject
to severe water problems. To eliminate the water problem, that portion of the property
would be graded and a new front-access garage would be located on the other side of the
home. The circular driveway was added to the plan to allow a vehicle to enter the
roadway safely.
Mr. Agatston asked Mr. Carosi if there was anything else that could be done on the
applicant's property to alleviate his water problem without the addition of a new garage
and circular driveway, adding that he is sympathetic to the homeowner's situation.
Mr. Carosi explained that there are definitely wet conditions in the area that are beyond
the homeowner's control. He added that some of the storm water problems will be
addressed by the rebuilding of North Ridge Street as discussed at an informational
meeting held at Village Hall by representatives from Westchester County Department of
Public Works the previous night, However, Mr. Carosi agreed that the plan should be
reviewed to see if a more acceptable site plan can be developed.
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February 14, 2008 PLANNING BOARD Approved
Mrs. Mohamed suggested that the garage could be moved back a sufficient distance to
enable adequate parking in front of the garage, but beyond the 35-foot SROD buffer,
eliminating the variance required for the driveway. There are many site plan solutions
that can address the homeowner's safety and parking concerns. A circular driveway is not
the only solution that would allow for additional parking. She added that a circular
driveway is not appropriate for a front yard the size of the subject property.
Mr. Grzan agreed with the homeowner regarding the safety issue created by backing out
into traffic on North Ridge Street.
Mr. Accurso wanted it noted that the Board does not look favorably on circular
driveways even in areas like Byram Ridge with its larger lots.
Chairman Zuckerman adjourned the application until the 27th of March 2008 and advised
the applicant to make sure the notice signs are in place for the next appearance.
There being no further business, Chairman Zuckerman asked for a motion to adjourn the
meeting and on a motion made by Mrs. Fredman and seconded by Mr. Agatston, the roll
was called:
Mr. Accurso Yes
Mr. Agatston Yes
Mrs. Fredman Yes
Mr. Grzan Yes
Mr. Laufer Yes
Chairman Zuckerman Yes
Motion carried
Meeting adjourned at 9:46 pm
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