HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-07-22 - Board of Trustees Meeting Minutes REGULAR MEETING
VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING
VILLAGE HALL, 938 KING STREET
TUESDAY, JULY 22, 2008-7:30 P.M.
AGENDA
6:30 PM– Open Meetings Law Workshop
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
REPORT
(1) Report by Dolph Rotfeld, Village Engineering consultant on Edgewood
Drainage Basin
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
(1) Public Hearing to consider a local law to amend Chapter 250 and 179 of
the Village of Rye Brook Village Code regarding powers, duties, and
procedures of the Zoning Board of Appeals.
RESOLUTIONS:
(1) Considering a local law to amend Chapter 250 and 179 of the Village of
Rye Brook Village Code regarding powers, duties, and procedures of
the Zoning Board of Appeals
(2) Setting a Public Hearing to consider a site plan and subdivision
application by KF ("Rye Brook"), LLC for a proposed development on
Anderson Hill Road
(3) Setting a Public Hearing regarding a local law to amend the zoning map
of the Village of Rye Brook to expand the H-1 district
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(4) Setting a Public Hearing on a proposed local law regarding Portable
Storage Units
(5) Referring amendments to Chapter 250 of the Village Code, regarding
storage or rental of off street parking to the Planning Board for report
and recommendation
(6) Considering a contract agreement between the Village of Rye Brook
and Rye Brook Police Association, Inc.
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
DISCUSSION ITEMS
(1) Term limits for the Mayor and Trustees
ACTION ON NON-AGENDA MATTERS SUBJECT TO THE CONSENT
OF THE TRUSTEES PRESENT AT THE MEETING
THE NEXT TRUSTEES MEETINGS: August 12 and August 26, 2008
BOARD Mayor Joan L. Feinstein
Trustee Michael S. Brown
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano
Trustee Dean P. Santon
STAFF: Christopher J. Bradbury, Village Administrator
David Burke, Assistant to the Village Administrator
Gregory Austin, Police Chief
Edward Beane, Village Counsel
Victor Carosi, Village Engineer
Fred Seifert, Public Access Coordinator
Paula Patafio, Meeting Secretary
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Mayor Joan L. Feinstein welcomed everyone to the July 22, 2008 Regular Meeting
of the Board of Trustees. She called upon Officer Michael Caridi, Rye Brook's
newest police officer, to lead the Board in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Feinstein noted that she would be taking a matter out of order from the
agenda. She noted that at the prior meeting of the Board of Trustees Mr. Caridi
was conditionally appointed to the position of Police Officer. Officer Caridi, who
will be attending the police academy, was welcomed to Rye Brook, and wished
good luck.
Officer Caridi introduced his family to the Mayor and the Board, and thanked the
Board for the wonderful and exciting opportunity to serve the Village of Rye
Brook.
Mayor Feinstein noted that the first order of business was a report from
Dolph Rotfeld on the Edgewood Drainage Basin. She called upon
Christopher Bradbury, Village Administrator, to give a brief background of this
proj ect.
REPORT
(1) REPORT BY DOLPH ROTFELD, VILLAGE ENGINEERING
CONSULTANT ON EDGEWOOD DRAINAGE BASIN
Mr. Bradbury began by noting that a number of years ago the Village of
Rye Brook performed a study of the Eastern Branch of the Blind Brook.
That report identified certain projects that needed to be looked at in
order to address storm water issues. Several projects completed over
the years have helped with flooding issues in that area of the Village.
The Edgewood/Rich Manor Park area is the next area of review. A
grant has been applied for, and funds have been earmarked for this
particular project. Certain improvements have been made working off
of the initial study, and at this point the Edgewood Basin will be the
focus of the discussion.
Dolph Rotfeld, Village Consulting Engineer, addressed the Board. He
noted that the study of the East Branch of Rye Brook goes back to
1980. Prior studies have identified methods of upstream retention to
reduce flooding in this area. Using a map, he identified the area of the
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proposed basin. The study identified ways to provide upstream
retention to reduce flooding in this area. A basin was created at the
King Street ball field site. This basin passed a major test in April of last
year. In addition, there was a stream that ran through property on Little
Kings Lane that used to flood and it did not flood in April of 2007,
which shows that this portion of the analysis works. Mr. Rotfeld noted
that there are about 72 acres of runoff that travels through the
tributaries. The area of disturbance around the proposed basin is about
1.6 acres and the highest water level is about 1.4 acres, which makes it
about 6 million gallons at its high point. One of the requirements of
construction of this basin is to apply for and receive a New York State
Department of Conservation (DEC) permit to construct a damn. The
water that runs from Loch Lane through Beechwood Circle comes into
this design point. The construction of the basin itself will be a concrete
structure. It will have a small pipe to allow discharge, but as the rain
increases the water will rise up in the basin itself, constricting the flow.
An analysis of the water quality will be made in compliance with DEC
regulations.
Mr. Bradbury noted that the basin will not retain the water from the
Beechwood Circle. The water that will be retained in this basin will
come from the Hutch and that area. The basin will hold that water back
and allow some of the other water to be released slowly so that it is not
all merging at the same time. Mr. Rotfeld noted that the State did
provide for some storm water retention when the Hutch was redone.
Mayor Feinstein stated that the proposed detention basin will be located
at the end of Edgewood Drive. She felt that this basin will create a
change in the character of the Edgewood neighborhood. She noted that
the Village must weigh the changes to the character of the community
at this area — the deforestation of this lot — against the benefits. She
asked Mr. Rotfeld what the area will look like, and how many trees
would have to come down.
Trustee Dean Santon noted that Meadowlark Park is 1.3 acres, and the
building lot on Edgewood is .85 of an acre. Combining both the park
and this last lot there are approximately 2.15 acres of land involved.
This is all municipal property. Most of the forested property is the last
lot on Edgewood. The Town bought this Edgewood lot in
approximately 1978.
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Trustee Paul Rosenberg noted that a large of amount of money is
involved in the creation of this detention basin. From viewing the map
of the area it can be seen that the topography of the area is relatively
flat. He wanted to be sure that the houses in the Rock Ridge area would
be relieved of flooding, and that the homes down stream would also feel
some relief.
Mr. Rotfeld noted the basin will help by holding the water back.
Providing as much detention as possible in the up-land area will help
this area. He noted that people often talk about a hundred year storm.
He clarified that a hundred year storm is not a storm that happens every
hundred years — it is a storm that has a 1% chance of happening in any
one year. Everyone knows the outcome of the April, 2007 storm. The
point of this project is to reduce the flow of water so that this type of
flooding does not occur again.
Trustee Rosenberg noted that the water becomes stagnant and doesn't
move very quickly because the area is level. Mr. Rotfeld noted that the
flow of the discharge will be 20% less. He noted that there are methods
to make the water move through the drains, and he also reminded the
Board that there are improvements that must be made downstream at
Hidden Falls and Westchester Avenue. The idea is to reduce the flow
of storm water to give some of the water a chance to get out. When the
ground is saturated there is no place for the water to be absorbed.
Mr. Bradbury noted that this project will not change the stream patterns.
In essence what the project will do is hold back some of the water,
allowing the rest to be released slowly. He also noted that there are
other projects to be included with this work, such as dredging.
Trustee Santon noted that these projects are links in a chain and some of
the links have been performed while others still need to be addressed.
The King Street ball field detention basin has helped the Byram Ridge
Rich Manor Park is basically a ten acre retention basin. Now the water
will be held back upstream and houses on Edgewood, Woodland, and
Rock Ridge that border Rich Manor Park and the surrounding area will
benefit. The idea is to hold back the volume of water and allow the
ground to absorb water before additional water is released.
Mr. Rotfeld noted that the flow of water will also be slowed down.
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Mayor Feinstein agreed that work needs to be done, but everyone must
understand that there will be visual impacts. This will be a big change
— a big visual impact — however this project has the potential of
minimizing the impact of storm water.
Mr. Rotfeld noted that there will be a change, and trees will be
removed. However, there is room to plant new trees.
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano questioned what work would need to
be done further down stream if this basin is not constructed.
Mr. Rotfeld noted that projects will be done down stream either way,
however, the basin will result in less water down stream, and have the
biggest impact on flooding. As the Village continues with additional
projects eventually the problem will be solved.
Trustee Michael Brown asked for the dimensions of the basin.
Mr. Rotfeld responded that there will be a grass slope and the maximum
height from the top to the bottom, when empty, would be about 10'. At
its widest point the basin would be approximately 190', and the length
will be 325'. Trustee Brown noted that this will be a very big visual
impact. He requested some type of renderings so that the Village and
its residents will know what to expect. He also noted that there are
concerns about safety, and fencing has been suggested.
Mayor Feinstein reiterated that a visual rendition must be submitted.
The project will take about a year from the time of approval to the time
of completion. Mr. Bradbury noted that this is municipal property and
that is a benefit. Easement agreements between the Village and the
adjacent homeowners can also be put in place. He stated that the
resolutions and commitments are part of the next steps.
Trustee Santon noted that the detention basin by the Arbors was
probably the closest in size and scope to the proposed Edgewood
project. He also noted that this Edgewood basin idea has been around
since around 1980. The Village has heard from many of the residents in
the downstream area regarding how much damage has resulted from
flooding over the years. There is a NYS grant in place, and this is
municipal property. The clearing that will need to be done will be
approximately the same as if a one-family home was constructed on this
property.
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Trustee Rosenberg felt that all of the residents must be notified
regarding this study, in addition to posting information on the Village's
website. Mayor Feinstein agreed with Trustee Rosenberg.
Mayor Feinstein asked that Mr. Bradbury continue his research and
report back to the Board with his findings. She thanked Mr. Rotfeld for
his informative presentation.
Mayor Feinstein called for the public hearing on the agenda:
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1) PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND
CHAPTER 250 AND 179 OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
VILLAGE CODE REGARDING POWERS, DUTIES, AND
PROCEDURES OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
Mayor Feinstein called for a motion to open the pubic hearing. On a
motion made by Trustee Sanders Romano, and seconded by Trustee
Santon, the public hearing was declared open.
Mr. Bradbury began the discussion by noting that this section of the
Village's Code is very outdated. It deals with the Zoning Board of
Appeals, how decisions are made, and what the decisions are based on. In
summary, the amendments takes the current standards from the State Laws
and uses them to set forth the standards for the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Mayor Feinstein noted that this proposed law has been reviewed by both
the Planning Board and the Zoning Board of Appeals. She thanked both
committees for their diligent review and suggestions which have now been
incorporated.
Trustee Rosenberg addressed the word "spirit" used in the amendments.
He felt that spirit cannot be legislated and yet the amendments include
reference to the spirit of the local law. The Board discussed different
language to be used to clarify the intent.
Trustee Santon noted that a meeting was held with the Mayor, Board of
Trustee Members, the Village Attorney, and the chairs of the Zoning Board
and Planning Board on this matter. The use of the words `spirit and intent'
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was discussed at that time. He noted that when you apply a law, the
judicial body can consider the spirit and intent of a law, but it is not actually
drafted into the legislation.
Mayor Feinstein began a discussion on additional wording of the new local
law. It was noted that there are standards that come out of case law that are
applied when making decisions. Edward Beane, Esq., Village Counsel,
noted that the proposed changes were substantial, he suggested leaving the
wording but adding additional text to clarify. Mr. Beane noted that not
only the standards change but the application of the standards change.
Mayor Feinstein opened the floor to members of the public. As there was
no one wishing to address the Board on this matter, she returned to the
Board members for final comments. The Board discussed the proposed
changes and additional changes were made. Trustee Santon stressed that
the objective was to make the local law read easily and be understandable
to all.
Edward Beane, Esq. reviewed all of the proposed changes to the Local Law
as directed by the Board of Trustees. It was noted that a paragraph needed
to be reworked or removed as it pertains to the determination made by the
Zoning Board and appeals that could be overturned. Also discussed was
how approvals should be conditioned. Mayor Feinstein felt that if there
was no opposition, the public hearing should be closed and Mr. Beane
would continue to review the text of this Local Law.
On a motion made by Trustee Brown, and seconded by Trustee Santon, the
public hearing was closed.
Mr. David Burke, Assistant to the Village Administrator, called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
The first resolution on the agenda was adjourned. Mayor Feinstein called for
resolution#2:
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RESOLUTIONS:
2) SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A SITE PLAN
AND SUBIVISION APPLICATION BY KF ("RYE BROOK"), LLC
FOR A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON ANDERSON HILL ROAD
Mr. Bradbury read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR TO CONSIDER A SITE PLAN AND
SUBDIVISION APPLICATION BY KF ("RYE BROOK"), LLC FOR A
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON ANDERSON HILL ROAD
WHEREAS, KF ("Rye Brook"), LLC has submitted an application
for site plan and subdivision approval for the proposed "Kingswood"
residential development located on the southwest corner of Anderson Hill
Road and King Street, the property being more particularly described as
Section 129.35, Block 1, Lot 13 on the Town of Rye Tax Map; and
WHEREAS, on July 10, 2008, the Planning Board of the Village of
Rye Brook referred the application back to the Board of Trustees with a
Report and Recommendation.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Village of
Rye Brook Board of Trustees shall conduct a public hearing on August 12,
2008 at 7:30 p.m. at Village Hall, 938 King Street, Rye Brook, New York
to consider the application for site plan and subdivision approval; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Applicant is directed to
comply with Section 250-40 of the Village Code regarding notification.
On a motion made by Trustee Sanders Romano, and seconded by Trustee
Santon, the resolution was opened for discussion.
John Wagner, esq., legal counsel for the applicant, gave a brief overview of
the matter. He noted that over the years this project has changed. The
project is now a residential subdivision versus a 125 room hotel. The
application has been submitted to the Village and although the stipulation
provided for 43 units, the applicant has scaled back the plan to 30 units.
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Extensive revisions have been made in consideration of comments made by
Village staff and committees, and the goal now is to resolve any
outstanding issues with Frederick P. Clark Associates, and to incorporate
all of the comments to everyone's satisfaction.
Trustee Sanders Romano noted that she served on the Planning Board
during the time of the original application. She also wanted to recognize
the current Planning Board and Chairman Zuckerman, who did a thorough
review of the application, with the assistance of the Village's consultants.
Trustee Rosenberg noted he reviewed the Planning Board's resolutions
with all of the recommendations. He noted that what stuck in his mind was
the installation of gates. He stated that he recognized that there might be
the necessity for a gate house, but he stated that he was not in favor of
gates. He also noted that there was an issue with street lighting.
Mr. Wagner responded that there has been a request for street lighting and
the Planning Board evaluated this request. The issue was also evaluated by
the Village's Engineer. The concern that was expressed came from Doral
Greens. They were looking for lighting that would illuminate the common
entrance, meaning that the lighting would have to reflect across the entire
street. A few scenarios were looked at, but nothing was found that would
cast light across the street.
Trustee Rosenberg noted that there was a July 21, 2008 memorandum
submitted by Dolph Rotfeld that needed to be reviewed by the applicant.
Mr. Wagner noted that there have been so many submissions on this matter,
and the applicant has always been compliant. The last issue was in
connection with preserving the trees. Changed plans were submitted.
Trustee Santon noted he saw the sign regarding the meeting was installed,
However, it was tucked into King Street. He asked if a sign for the public
hearing was also installed on Anderson Hill Road. Mr. Wagner noted that
there were two signs, one on King Street and one on Anderson Hill Road
near Doral Greens.
Mayor Feinstein reminded the Board that the resolution simply set the date
of the public hearing.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
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Trustee Paul S. Rosenber Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
The resolution was approved on a vote of five (5) ayes to zero (0) nays.
3) SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A LOCAL LAW TO
AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
TO EXPAND THE H-1 DISTRICT
Mr. Bradbury read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A LOCAL LAW TO
AMEND THE ZONING MAP OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK TO
EXPAND THE H-1 DISTRICT
WHEREAS, a local law has been proposed to amend the Zoning
Map of the Village of Rye Brook to expand the H-1 Zoning District.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of
Trustees of the Village of Rye Brook shall hold a public hearing on August
12, 2008 at 7:30 p.m., at Village Hall, 938 King Street, Rye Brook, New
York to consider a proposed local law to amend the Zoning Map of the
Village of Rye Brook to expand the H-1 Zoning District.
On a motion made by Trustee Sanders Romano, and seconded by Trustee
Santon, the resolution was approved.
Mr. Bradbury noted that this resolution was related to the previous matter,
the application by KR Rye Brook LLC. This change incorporates the R-20
Zone into the H-1 Zone.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
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Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenber Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
4) SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW
REGARDING PORTABLE STORAGE UNITS
Mr. Bradbury read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW
REGARDING PORTABLE STORAGE UNITS.
WHEREAS, the Board of Trustees is considering amendments to
the Village of Rye Brook Village Code regarding Portable Storage Units.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of
Trustees of the Village of Rye Brook shall hold a public hearing on
September 9, 2008 at 7:30 p.m., at Village Hall, 938 King Street, Rye
Brook, New York to consider a proposed local law regarding Portable
Storage Units.
On a motion made by Trustee Santon, and seconded by Trustee Sanders
Romano, the resolution was adopted.
Mr. Bradbury noted that the last time this matter was discussed it was noted
that these storage units are becoming more of a concern to municipalities.
The comments from the discussion were incorporated into the proposed
local law. He noted that the first fifteen (15) days that a storage unit is
constructed would not require a permit. This type of placement is
considered temporary in nature. However, from fifteen (15) days to six
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months a permit would be required and the application would be reviewed
by the Building Inspector. For a temporary placement, the placement
would have to be in a driveway, or adjacent to the driveway on the side that
is not closest to the nearest neighbor.
Trustee Santon noted that he had a problem with the definition of public
storage unit. He asked if the Village's Building Inspector has reviewed the
proposed amendments. He wanted to be sure that what the Village was
trying to regulate was being captured by the amendments. The Village
should be able to regulate when a structure can come onto a property,
where it will be located, and the length of time that it can be left there.
There are two different standards. One is for construction, which the
Building Inspector will monitor; the other is for moving, and these pods
come, are filled, and taken away.
Mayor Feinstein felt that a storage unit for any purpose other than
construction should have a time limit set of a maximum of 30 days. When
the units are used in conjunction with construction then people need
latitude. Trustee Santon asked that language be added to give the Building
Inspector discretion as to how long a pod can be left during construction.
The Board discussed the length of time that a unit can remain on a property,
placement of the unit, not blocking the right-of-way, the penalties involved,
and the impact of purchasing versus renting of the units. The comments
were incorporated into the local law.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
5) REFERRING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 250 OF THE
VILLAGE CODE, REGARDING STORAGE OR RENTAL OF OFF
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STREET PARKING TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR REPORT
AND RECOMMENDATION
Mr. Bradbury read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
REFERRING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 250 OF THE
VILLAGE CODE, REGARDING STORAGE OR RENTAL OF OFF
STREET PARKING TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR REPORT AND
RECOMMENDATION
WHEREAS, the Board of Trustees is considering amendments to
Chapter 250, Section 6 of the Village Code regarding Off Street Parking
Requirements.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of
Trustees hereby refers the proposed local law to the Planning Board for
report and recommendation.
On a motion made by Trustee Santon, and seconded by Trustee Sanders
Romano, the resolution was adopted.
Trustee Santon reviewed the purpose of this resolution. He noted that there
are instances where individuals are renting parking spaces in retail and
office building lots to someone other than a conventional tenant of the
property. The parking spaces for office buildings and/or retail uses are
carefully calculated and spaces are to be used for the customers and/or
employees. The Rye Ridge Shopping is very tight in connection with the
ratio of parking to tenants, and the number of parking spaces are below
what is actually needed. Now they are renting out these spaces to
individuals who do not have a store front in the center. Another example
used by Trustee Santon was CVS who is using Budget Rental trucks as
additional storage space. These trucks are parked in the parking area.
Trustee Santon noted that he also did not want to see instances where
someone rents a desk to someone and now they bring in their fleet of
limousines, landscaping trucks, etc.
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Mr. Bradbury noted that some of the tenants have vans for use of delivery,
and they are allowed to keep these vehicles in the parking lot. These
vehicles are not included in the intent of the amendments to the local law.
He noted that he would prepare a cover memorandum to go along with the
referral to the Planning Board for additional clarification. In addition, it
was noted that Mr. Dominick Accurso, member of the Planning Board, was
in attendance at the meeting. He was asked to share this discussion with his
Board members.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Nay
6) CONSIDERING A CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK AND RYE BROOK POLICE
ASSOCIATION, INC.
Mr. Bradbury read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
CONSIDERING A CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK AND RYE BROOK
POLICE ASSOCIATION, INC.
WHEREAS, the Village of Rye Brook and Rye Brook Police
Association, Inc. have been negotiating for a contract extension; and
WHEREAS, on July 2, 2008 a Stipulation of Agreement was agreed
upon by the two patties.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Village of Rye
Brook enters into an agreement with Rye Brook Police Association, Inc. for
the period of June 1, 2007 through May 31, 2011, on the terms and
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conditions set forth in the Stipulation of Agreement signed by both parties
on July 2, 2008, which has since been ratified by the Rye Brook Police
Association members and hereby approved on behalf of the Village of Rye
Brook; and it is
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Mayor and the Village
Administrator are authorized to execute and deliver all documents
necessary or appropriate to accomplish the purposes of this resolution.
On a motion made by Trustee Santon, and seconded by Trustee Sanders
Romano, the resolution was adopted.
Mr. Bradbury noted that he was very pleased to make this recommendation
to the Board. This is a four year contract, replacing a contract that expired
last year.
Mayor Feinstein noted that the difference in the contract is that this one has
a four year term. She expressed her thanks to the staff and the association
for their hard work putting this contract together.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
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Mr. Bradbury was called upon for the Administrator's Report.
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
Mr. Bradbury gave an update on the Village Hall project. A kick off meeting was
held and the process has begun.
Mr. Bradbury noted that there is now Con Edison link on the Village's website.
There is information on staying cool and how to save money. There are programs
and activities listed.
Mayor Feinstein noted an Open Meetings Law Workshop was held prior to the
Board meeting. The Open Government Law and the Freedom of Information Act
were discussed.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
(1) TERM LIMITS FOR THE MAYOR AND TRUSTEES
Mayor Feinstein noted that the length of terms was raised several years
ago. She felt very strongly about changing the length of terms for the
Board of Trustee Members and the Mayor because in her opinion a two
year term was not sufficient. Legislation was passed and the
community passed the referendum in March 2008. Now she asked that
the Board consider limiting the terms for both the Mayor and the
Trustee members. The Board members are volunteers. This change
will encourage individuals to step up to the plate and run for public
office. Turn over is good and it energizes people.
She asked that a dialogue be opened concerning limiting the terms.
She felt that three terms, nine years, was sufficient. This should apply
to consecutive terms. Trustee Rosenberg agreed with Mayor Feinstein
in that serving the Village as a Board member for nine years is
sufficient. He also noted that the Board members are elected officials
and the elections also determine the length of time a person can serve.
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Trustee Santon felt that nine years is a long time. He noted that he felt
that a two-year term was better than the three-year term, but this
change has been made. At some point people go back to their lives.
Trustee Romano noted that she would support three terms.
Trustee Brown noted that these are volunteer positions. He felt that
nine (9) years is a very long time. He also felt that the terms for
Trustee and Mayor should be kept separate since a Trustee could serve
for two terms and then run for Mayor. That would mean that they
could only serve one (1) term as Mayor.
Trustee Santon noted that there are committees that have had members
serve for fifteen (15) years. He felt that the Village should also
consider limiting those terms. Trustee Rosenberg noted that there was
an article recently that pointed out that Port Chester has a large number
of openings on their boards and they do have term limits for some of
their boards and commissions. No one wants to see that happen in Rye
Brook.
Mayor Feinstein asked the Board to consider if they wished to pursue
this matter. Trustee Santon suggested returning to the two year terms.
Mayor Feinstein called upon members of the public wishing to address the Board.
Mrs. Lori Funtlyder of 13 Beechwood Boulevard addressed the Board. She noted
that she and her husband had an application before the Board which was recently
approved and they are now beginning construction of their home. She pointed out
that the permit fee formula has recently changed and these changes were ratified at
the last meeting. Although she stated that she agreed with the intent, and that
there was a need for a change, having reviewed the changes she found that the
changes overestimate the costs and puts a financial burden on the applicants. She
concurred that the $220.00 per square foot was a reasonable figure for the first and
second floor of living space. However, garages cost approximately $100.00 per
square foot to construct and the new fee structure factors in garages and basements
as living space. She felt that the Village had depended upon a company that
specializes in commercial construction and not residential construction. The
changes made cost residents thousands of dollars. A tremendous amount of
research goes along with the plans for construction. Mrs. Funtlyder noted that she
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learned that it cost approximately $50.00 per square foot to construct a finished
basement.
Mr. Bradbury responded to the concerns. He noted that previously applicants and
their representatives came in with low figures. The Village has been aware of this
for some time. The goal was to find the reasonable value for the cost of
construction, and base permit fees on that. Basically the process that was decided
upon utilizes a software program that looks at residential construction, not
commercial construction. The Village understands that some projects cost more
than others; for example it costs more to construct a bathroom versus construction
a bedroom. The end result was values that are reasonable, and actually more on
the conservative side. The Village is now able to calculate an accurate and fair
rate. Since the matter has been raised by a resident, the Board can reconsider the
prices/fees for the basements and garages.
Mayor Feinstein noted that a lot of work and research was done prior to the
changes being made. She noted, however, that the matter could be revisited and
directed Mr. Bradbury to investigate the cost of construction of a basement and
garage area and then look at the fees that have been proposed to ensure that they
are fair.
Trustee Santon disagreed with revisiting the matter. He felt that that the changes
were fair and accurate. He noted that the intent of making the changes was come
up with a per square foot cost that would be fair to the Village and all of its
residents. In the past the Village's Staff has relied on the applicants' professionals
and, unfortunately, applicants have been putting low figures. It has been found
that applicants have been putting in low ball numbers.
Trustee Rosenberg noted that there was a need for equity and if a resident felt that
the fees were off balance then reviewing the matter should be the next step.
Mr. Bradbury should review the costs associated with the construction of
basements and garages, etc.
Trustee Santon noted that no one builds a basement with 10-foot high ceilings for
storage. At some point someone will finish the area. They turn into the basement
areas into playrooms, gyms, screening rooms.
Trustee Brown felt that this was a blended rate. He also agreed that exploring this
further was worthwhile. The Village was losing a tremendous amount of revenue
because of the underestimated costs that the builders were putting on their
applications.
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A former resident of 18 Rockinghorse Trail, who is a builder, addressed the Board.
He noted that a home that he built for himself, and then sold was used as an
example for the new fees. He stated that he was shocked to see the inaccuracies.
Although he understood the need the Village has to bring in revenue, it is unfair to
burden the residents. He also felt that the fees were too high. He noted that as a
contractor he knew what the cost of excavating for a basement and the numbers
listed by the Village were too high. He asked that the information regarding 18
Rockinghorse Trail be corrected.
Trustee Sanders Romano noted that bathrooms are more expensive to build than
bedrooms and yet the fees remain the same for all living space on first and second
floors. She did not support a review of this matter.
Mrs. Funtlyder felt that grossly over-estimating the costs is unfair. Mayor
Feinstein noted that the intent of the changes were to make things fair. She stated
that staff would be directed to review the matter and report back to the Board with
the findings.
Trustee Santon noted that if the applicants had put down the actual costs the
changes would not have been necessary. In looking back it was found that the
honor system did not work. The Village was forced to come up with a formula to
use when calculating permit fees based upon construction costs.
Mr. Bradbury noted that several approaches were reviewed to come up with the
cost of construction. He also felt that the changes were fair, but if the decision of
the Board was to take another look at this staff would comply.
Mayor Feinstein noted that the conversation has exhausted itself. There were no
guarantees offered, but only that the fact that the Village would revisit this matter.
Mayor Feinstein called upon the remaining members of the public wishing to
address the Board.
Richard Abel addressed the Board. He noted that he has been watching five (5)
municipalities over the years and this was the first time he had seen a meeting held
to explain and discuss the open meetings law. He was also very impressed that
Rye Brook would consider discussing limiting the number of terms for Board
Members and the Mayor. As everyone knows, he was against lengthening the
terms, but sometimes public servants stay too long and a term limit is definitely
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the way to go. This change could increase community participation and it is
admirable that Rye Brook would consider such a change.
Mr. Abel suggested an issue that Rye Brook should look into. He noted that ten
(10) years ago something happened in an area of Port Chester when a restaurant
went from being a restaurant to an adult club. He suggested that Rye Brook
review its Code to ensure that something like this can never happen. Changes
should be made to the Code now before an issue ever arises.
Trustee Romano noted that revisions to the Zoning Code have been suggested by
the Planning Board. She hoped that this matter would be put on the Board of
Trustees agenda in the near future for a discussion item.
Mayor Feinstein noted that the next Board of Trustee meetings were scheduled for
August 12, and August 26, 2008.
Mayor Feinstein noted that the Board would be holding an Executive Session
regarding personnel and performance reviews. She called for a motion to adjourn.
On a motion made by Trustee Sanders Romano, and seconded by Trustee Santon,
the meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Mr. Burke called the roll:
Trustee Michael S. Brown Voting Aye
Trustee Paul S. Rosenberg Voting Aye
Trustee Patricia Sanders Romano Voting Aye
Trustee Dean P. Santon Voting Aye
Mayor Joan L. Feinstein Voting Aye
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