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PLANNING BOARD AGENDA
Thursday, July 22, 2004
Special Meeting @ 7:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
SITE PLAN APPROVAL
2. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
LARGE LOT SUBDIVISION STUDY AND R-20 SETBACK
AMENDMENTS
3. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
SCENIC ROADS OVERLAY DISTRICT CREATION
4. DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING HOME
OCCUPATION HOURS OF OPERATION
BOARD Warren Agatston, Chairman
Dominick Accurso, Jr.
Floyd Caplan
Michele Fredman
John Grzan
Patricia Romano
Jim Winter
STAFF Victor Carosi,Village Engineer
Jennifer M. Porter, Esq.,Village Counsel
Marilyn Timpone Mohamed,Village Consultant
Paula Patafio, Meeting Secretary
Mr. Warren Agatston, Chairman, welcomed everyone to the July 22, 2004 Special
meeting of the Planning Board. He began the meeting by noting that Planning Board
meetings are not public hearings, but rather working sessions of the Planning Board. It
was noted that although not public hearings, all notice requirements as set forth in
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Section 250-40(a) and 250-40(b) of the newly amended Village Code are required for all
appearances before this Board that require action. Mr. Agatston pointed out that when a
matter was placed on the agenda strictly for discussion purposes, no notice requirements
were necessary. Nevertheless,members of the public are accorded an opportunity, at the
discretion of the Chair, to address the Board on matters pertaining only to items before
the Board. All speakers are asked to speak only from the podium, and state their name,
address, and affiliation. The length of speaker comments may be curtailed at the
discretion of the Chair, particularly if a speaker's comments are deemed to be redundant
or out of order. Mr. Agatston noted that the Planning Board hoped to close all meetings
no later than 11:00 p.m.
Mr. Agatston noted that he had held a meeting earlier with Jennifer Porter, Esq., Village
Attorney, Mr. Michael Izzo, Acting Building Inspector, and Mr. Christopher Bradbury,
Village administrator, to discuss Code amendments and, specifically, the Sprinkler Law.
Mr. Agatston asked permission to take the agenda out of order. With the Board's
approval, he called for item 94:
4. DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING HOME
OCCUPATION HOURS OF OPERATION
Ms. Porter was called upon to discuss this matter. She noted that this is a minor
revision to the Tier II Home Occupation. Section 250-38 only regulates hours of
operations for pre-existing and Tier III related home occupations. These are the
more intense type of homeowner occupations. A Tier II Home Occupation is
allowed fewer visits, and only one employee, however, there have been some
problems in the past few months with some of the Tier II Home Occupations
operating at night and on weekends. The Village has decided to amend the law,
making Tier II subject to the same hours as Tier III — Monday through Friday
from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., with no weekend hours.
Ms. Porter noted that she prepared a cover letter to the Board on this matter, with
an explanation of why this portion of the Code can be amended. In this instance
hours of operations fall under the general welfare provision and the Village does
have the right to regulate them. There are two provisions being added. The first
one amends the hours of operation. The second notes that home occupations that
are pre-existing (prior to the existence of the Tiering system) are required to
comply with the regulations.
Floyd Caplan noted that Tier II and Tier III are now regulated in the same manner
in connection with hours of operation. The differences include the number of
employees and limited amounts of visits per week.
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Mr. James Winter questioned why Tier I was not included. Ms. Porter responded
that Tier I is very limited and is someone practicing their own business in their
home. There are no outside employees, and they are working within the confines
of their homes. Ms. Michele Fredman requested an example of a Tier II Home
Occupation. Ms. Porter responded that it could be a Chiropractor's office, where
the occupant and one additional employee work from the home. The visitors, and
the parking, are creating issues for the neighbors and the Village is now
attempting to regulate the amount of traffic created from the occupation and the
hours of operation.
Mr. Agatston noted that this matter has been reviewed over the past six to eight
months. There have been revisions, and now there is the issue of enforcement
that must be addressed. The Village has recently hired a Code Enforcement
Officer to help with these matters and part of his responsibilities will now be to
help deal with complaints from neighbors/residents.
Mr. John Grzan questioned why there were no weekend hours included in the
resolution. Ms. Porter noted that the timeframe was decided upon by the Board of
Trustees. Mr. Grzan asked that Saturday hours be included. Mr. Agatston
suggested passing the resolution, and noted that the recommendation could
include a suggestion of hours for Saturdays of 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
Mr. Winter questioned whether it was abuses of hours that brought this matter to
the attention of the Village. Ms. Porter noted that there were complaints of office
hours as early as 6:00 a.m. as well as late hours. Ms. Romano pointed out that
changing the hours does not preclude someone from coming in and requesting an
exception to the hours. Ms. Porter responded that when making an application, a
resident can request weekend hours for a Tier III Home Occupation.
There being no further discussion, Ms. Porter read the following resolution:
RESOLUTION
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND
CHAPTER 250-38 OF THE CODE OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
CONCERNING TIER II HOME OCCUPATIONS AND REFERRING SUCH
LOCAL LAW BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE VILLAGE OF
RYE BROOK
WHEREAS, the Village of Rye Brook Board of Trustees is considering
amending Section 250-38 of the Code to incorporate provisions regulating the
hours of operation for new and existing Tier II home occupations; and
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WHEREAS, the proposed local law was referred to the Planning Board
by the Board of Trustees on July 13, 2004; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board discussed the local law at a meeting on
July 22, 2004 at which time members of the public were given the opportunity to
comment; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board revised the proposed law to extend the
hours of operation for Tier II home occupations to include hours on Saturday
from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of
the Village of Rye Brook hereby recommends approval of the revised local law to
amend Section 250-38 of Chapter 250 of the Code of the Village of Rye Brook to
regulate the hours of operation for new and existing Tier II Home Occupations
and refers the proposed local law to the Board of Trustees for action.
A modification was made in hours of operation for Tier 11 only on Saturday from
9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
On a motion made by Floyd Caplan, and seconded by Patricia Romano, the
resolution was adopted as amended by a vote of seven ayes to zero noes.
Mr. Agatston took a moment to welcomed Trustee Santon to the meeting. He then called
for item 93 on the agenda:
3. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
SCENIC ROADS OVERLAY DISTRICT CREATION
Ms. Timpone Mohamed, Village Consultant from the firm of Frederick P. Clark
Associates, addressed the Board. She noted that she presented the Board with an
amended resolution that included a recommendation for specific roads within the
Village.
Mr. Agatston requested that Ms. Timpone Mohamed give an overview of the
Scenic Overlay District and the amendments to the Code. Ms. Timpone
Mohamed noted that the original law included both the enabling legislation for
Conservation Easements as well as the creation of the Scenic Overlay District.
The two topics were separated primarily to allow each of them to be placed within
the Code, in an appropriate place. There was some difficulty in figuring out
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where each of the two parts should go. By separating them, Conservation
Easements was made into a separate chapter, and the Scenic Roads Overlay
District became a modification of Chapter 250, in its appropriate place in the
Chapter.
The Scenic Roads Overlay District would create a special district that was located
in various places in the Village. It would have somewhat more restrictive
requirements than the underlying zoning district. Creation of the Scenic Roads
Overlay District, would provide for a greater ability to preserve and protect
certain scenic resources along the roads that have been studied, such as stone
walls, rock outcroppings, vegetation, and architectural artifacts such as gates and
fences. These items, when they exist along the edge of a road, are a part of the
scenic character of the road. They are in danger of being removed or
compromised by additional development and subdivisions of existing lots along
the road. The significant provision is that the front yard setback for the properties
within the Overlay District would be increased by a factor of 1.5 above what is
required by the zoning district. This increase would allow for the preservation of
the special characteristics on properties and the road, and allow for vegetated
buffers aimed at preserving certain manmade features along the front property
line.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that the Overlay District regulations may have to
be modified slightly once the site plan amendments are completed. The
alterations referred to in the proposed law are alterations to the primary structure
on the lot as opposed to accessory structures. Mr. Carosi questioned whether or
not the intent of the word structure was to identify accessory buildings. Ms.
Timpone Mohamed suggested changing the wording to accessory buildings or
accessory structures. A pool is an accessory structure, anything with a roof is an
accessory building. It was noted that there is a principal use on a lot, which is its
main use and then there are accessory uses.
The amendment creates an overlay district that would encompass certain roads
and change the requirements of the underlying zoning district within the Overlay
District. One of the things that could happen is a conservation easement could be
placed on the front portion of the property. One of the objectives is to limit or
screen the parking in front yards.
Mr. Agatston suggested that any action within this district be referred to the
Building Inspector. Once the determination is made that it is either
inconsequential or it isn't. New structures, wherever they are, will come before
the Board for Site Plan review under the new statute.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that this draft law was written prior to the work on
site plan approval amendments. Ms. Porter responded that the site plan provisions
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can be amended, and one of the triggers could be location within the Scenic
Overlay District.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that the Site Plan Approval portion of the Code is
very complicated. She also noted that a special review was done in the R-10
District in the Lincoln Avenue corridor to determine if lots are deep enough to
accommodate these amendments, and allow for backyard amenities. The Board
of Trustees would be able to grant relief for an odd lot that might require it.
The roads to be included are: King Street,north of the Hutchinson River Parkway;
Anderson Hill Road; Lincoln Avenue from Westchester Avenue to the Blind
Brook; Bowman Avenue, from North Ridge to the Blind Brook; Westchester
Avenue, from North Ridge Street to Blind Brook; and North Ridge Street, from
the Hutchinson Parkway to Ridge Boulevard.
It is important to note that Lincoln Avenue and the other roads are in need of
protection in terms of scenic quality. The logic was that these are roads are
gateway roads into the Village — major through roads and major transportation
routes for residents within the Village. These roads have a concentration of those
kinds of artifacts and scenic characteristics that the Village is trying to preserve.
These legislative amendments protect historic stone walls and new stone walls
that are now scenic and deserve protection.
Mr. Dominick Accurso requested that the approval authority regarding a
building's exterior architectural elevation and features be clarified. The
resolution contained conflicting language, specifically on which Board — the
Board of Architectural Review, Planning Board or Board of Trustee — had final
approval. He felt that an applicant could be confused if granted approval and
then, as the process continued, was turned down by the Architectural Review
Board. Mr. Agatston felt that the approving authority was the correct word as the
Board of Trustees can refer an application to the Architectural Review Board and
Planning Board for review. Trustee Santon noted that more than one body can
give architectural criteria.
Ms. Timpone-Mohamed read the resolution into the record.
RESOLUTION
REFERRING TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 250,ZONING, OF THE
CODE OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK AND THE ZONING MAP
REGARDING SCENIC ROADS OVERLAY DISTRICTS
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WHEREAS, the Board of Trustees is considering a local law to amend
Chapter 250, Zoning, of the Code of the Village of Rye Brook and the Zoning
Map regarding location of scenic roads overlay districts; and
WHEREAS, the proposed text amendments are attached to this resolution
with text to be deleted shown in strikeout and text to be added shown underlined;
and
WHEREAS, the proposed local law was referred to the Planning Board
by the Board of Trustees on February 24, 2004; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board discussed the local law at public
meetings on March 11, April 15, May 20, June 10, and July 22, 2004 at which
time members of the public were given opportunity to comment and members of
the Planning Board directed the Village Consultants to make revisions and
modifications.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of
the Village of Rye Brook hereby recommends approval of the proposed text
amendments, as attached hereto and refers the proposed local law to the Board of
Trustees for action.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Planning Board, in connection
with such recommendation, recommends that Board of Trustees place the
following road sections in Scenic Roads Overlay Districts:
1. King Street, north of the Hutchinson River Parkway
2. Anderson Hill Road from King Street to the Blind Brook
3. Lincoln Avenue, from Westchester Avenue to the Blind Brook
4. Bowman Avenue, from South Ridge Street to the municipal boundary with
Harrison
5. Westchester Avenue/Route 120A, from North Ridge Street to the Blind Brook
6. North Ridge Street, from the Hutchinson River Parkway to Ridge Boulevard
Mr. Agatston asked for a motion to approve the resolution, as amended. On a
motion made by Patricia Romano, and seconded by Michele Fredman, the
resolution was approved by a vote of 7 ayes to zero noes.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed felt that it would be prudent to take the Large Lot Subdivision
review next.
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2. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
LARGE LOT SUBDIVISION STUDY AND R-20 SETBACK
AMENDMENTS
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that these amendments to Chapter 250 grew out of
the large lot subdivision study done for the Board of Trustees. The study dealt
with re-subdivisions within the Byram Ridge and Lincoln Avenue corridor
neighborhoods. Code amendments were recommended as part of the study, and
the amendments would change the requirements for front-yard setbacks for
properties within the R-20 zoning district— the largest lots the district. If a new
building was built on a lot whose neighbors exceeded the minimum front yard
setback, which is 40 feet, then the new building would be required to be built at a
setback that is the average of the setbacks of the two flanking buildings. This
would maintain the spatial character of the neighborhood. It would use the
average distance and allows for the new construction to be in keeping with the
existing buildings in the neighborhood.
Mr. Agatston noted that this matter had been discussed at the Planning Board
level a number of times. This amendment simply amends the minimum front yard
setback—the location of the house.
Mr. Carosi noted that he would discuss updating the Code Books with the
Village's Administration after the new laws have all been adopted.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed read the resolution.
RESOLUTION
REFERRING TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES A LOCAL LAW AMENDING
CHAPTER 250,ZONING, OF THE CODE OF THE VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
REGARDING FRONT YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS
IN THE R-20 DISTRICT
WHEREAS, the Board of Trustees is considering a local law to amend
Chapter 250, Zoning, of the Code of the Village of Rye Brook regarding front
yard setback requirements in the R-20 district; and
WHEREAS, the proposed text amendments are attached to this resolution
with text to be deleted shown in strikeout and text to be added shown underlined;
and
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WHEREAS, the proposed local law was referred to the Planning Board
by the Board of Trustees on March 23, 2004; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board discussed the local law at public
meetings on April 15, May 20, June 10, and July 22, 2004 at which time members
of the public were given opportunity to comment and members of the Planning
Board directed the Village's Consultants to make revisions and modifications.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of
the Village of Rye Brook hereby recommends approval of the proposed text
amendments, as revised and attached hereto and refers the proposed local law to
the Board of Trustees for action.
On a motion made by Mr. James Winter, and seconded by Ms. Romano, the
resolution was approved by a vote of seven ayes to zero noes.
Mr. Agatston called for a brief recess. The Board returned at 9:15 p.m. Upon their
return, item 91 was called before the Board.
1. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENTS REGARDING
SITE PLAN APPROVAL
Ms. Porter noted that several amendments were made at the meeting referred to at
the start of this Planning Board meeting by Mr. Agatston which was held earlier
in the day. These amendments were made in connection with the Sprinkler Law.
During that meeting, certain definitions were discussed.
Ms. Porter noted that Section 209, Section 1, Subdivision A was revised, and that
Subdivision B was a newly created provision. The way that the original
amendments were worded was that the construction of all new buildings were
subject to site plan review. However, at a previous Planning Board meeting a
discussion regarding limiting the review to certain types of one and two family
dwellings took place. Section B is the critical piece as it refers to one and two
family dwellings that would result in usage of less than 75% of the maximum
gross floor area permitted in the applicable zoning district. It was originally at the
50% mark, but during discussions with Village staff and consultants, it was
determined that based upon the average home within Rye Brook, this would
require site plan review for each and every one and two family dwellings. The
threshold needed to be raised a bit to let some people out of the net. There are
now two triggers that would require site plan approval. The first is the maximum
gross floor area and the second is maximum impervious surface coverage. This is
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the only section that deals with new buildings — it is the way that new
construction is exempted out. Section 2 deals with teardowns. In order to review
Section 2 the Board needed to have a clear view of the definitions. The
definitions were reviewed. It was noted that these definitions were derived from
the New York State Building and Residential Code. Ms. Timpone Mohamed
noted that the Acting Building Inspector requested that the Code in Rye Brook be
consistent with the New York Building Code. Mr. Agatston noted Section 2 was
the Section where Scenic Road Overlays would be added.
The Board reviewed the definitions of renovations and additions. Ms. Porter
noted that certain types of additions were separated out, basically to distinguish
between construction activities and the activities that would not be subject to site
plan review. They were purposely linked and defined so that they could be
separated out. There are four main types of construction oriented activities, and
all four are now defined. These definitions go into the Zoning Code. At this time
alterations,renovations, additions and reconstruction are not part of the Code.
The amendments trigger site plan review, the definitions have been coordinated
with the New York State Building Code, and both will assist the Building
Inspector.
Mr. Agastston noted that eventually there will be sprinkler law changes. The
Village is now reviewing whether or not it wants to create or require sprinklers in
one or two family homes in simple renovations. Ms. Porter noted that now the
amendments are dealing with the existing buildings, and what types of changes to
existing buildings the Village would like to trigger site plan review. Mr. Carosi
felt that site plan review should come into play when something affects the
exterior of a building.
Ms. Fredman asked if the code, and the amendments, are available for review on
the Village's website. The response was that they were. Ms. Fredman suggested
that this review be done slowly as these amendments are confusing. Mr. Grzan
noted that there are two separate Codes: Building and Zoning. For clarification,
he noted that the Building Code refers to interior work. Mr. Agatston noted that
the amendments were being used to determine at what point there would be site
plan approval required, when it wasn't a new home but a reconstruction. Mr.
Carosi stated that site plan review should only come into play when the
construction affects the exterior of the building.
Mr. Agatston questioned using the word"addition"because it supposes adding on
to a footprint. Mr. Carosi noted that adding on above a garage does not require
touching the footprint of a building, however, digging would trigger a site plan
review. He noted that a Tier II Home Occupation can potentially affect the
neighborhood and those around it, and suggested site plan review for a Tier II use
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as well. It was also noted that certain types of renovations do not require a
building permit, such as the addition of a patio—unless it exceeds the amount of
impervious surface permitted. The Village wants to be able to watch the residents
who are bumping up against the maximum allowable because of the impacts that
result.
Trustee Santon pointed out that without the amendments a resident could now
pave their entire back yard and their entire front yard without needing a building
permit. He also noted that there were many Home Occupations that have not
been reviewed because they were in existence before the Code was put in place.
If a resident wants to work out of his/her own house, they can alter a room with a
Building Permit but would need no Board approval or site plan review. So the
aspect of who is coming and going, and the aspect of additional traffic is never
reviewed. All the environment impacts that come along with that use never get
reviewed by anyone except the Building Inspector. The Board discussed a change
of use, and the decision was made to exclude Tier I Home Occupation uses.
The Board moved their discussion to construction done outside of the home. This
discussion included four key types of permits that affect the environmental
conditions of the site. Keeping in mind that the objective was not to over legislate
the Village, Ms. Timpone Mohamed felt that the pool permitting procedure
should be added to the list of permits. She also noted that if someone is building a
driveway, increasing the parking, building a wall, or whatever, there is now no
site plan review because it is not tied to any alteration of the building.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that the amendments were attempts to try and
create a trigger for site plan review. That would include paving for a parking
area, the creation of a basketball court, etc., that would not be tied to alteration of
a building. Retaining walls and fences should also be subject to permitting. If a
resident constructs a fence on top of a berm or on top of a wall, then the Village
should be able to get involved. In addition, the Village is trying to catch all
significant grading changes.
Ms. Timpone Mohamed noted that either the Village must review everything, or
set triggers to limit what comes under site plan review. Mr. Caplan questioned
whether or not the Board of Trustees realized that they would be handling all of
these matters. Mr. Carosi noted that the Village now has a Code Enforcement
Officer to handle complaints from neighbors.
The Board discussed variances. Mr. Agatston noted that variances were the
purview of the Zoning Board of Appeals. However, if an application is before the
Zoning Board, topography is generally not discussed. If there are changes to the
topography—excavation—then a site plan review should be required.
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The Board also discussed removing vegetation, and clear cutting of properties.
Clearing, which includes removing vegetation and their roots, can cause erosion
control problems. Currently if trees are not greater than 12" in diameter, no
permit is required to remove these trees. It was felt that by changing the
definitions the aspects of concern to the community can be reviewed.
Mr. Carosi noted that the Building Department has created a flow chart. They
keep track of building permit forms, but things do happen in the Village that the
Building Department is not made aware of. Sometimes the only way they find
out about construction on residents' property is when a neighbor complains.
Mr. Carosi noted that a Code definition will create equality for everyone. What
constitutes a minor or major construction matter must be clearly defined. And,
unfortunately, sometimes what is determined minor turns out to be major. The
professionals need guidelines to work within so that they can be consistent. A lot
of the applications that are now before the Village are complicated in terms of the
amount of construction done on existing lots. The applications are moving into
marginal areas. The Board was reminded that the Village Code was taken from
the Town of Rye and simply copied. The Code is now being changed, made
better. Ms. Porter noted that the end result of construction, the impacts to the
Village,must be reviewed.
As it was getting late, and there was much more to be reviewed on this matter, Mr.
Agatston called for a motion to adjourn. The review will continue at the next Planning
board meeting.
A motion was made and seconded to adjourn the meeting at 10:50 p.m.
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