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VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK DATE 0
938 King Street
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday, December 1, 2015 Meeting at 8:00 p.m. IECEWE Rn
AGENDA JAN - 6
20116
1. # 15-015 Ms. Robin Kamin VILLAGE OF RYE BROOK
39 Hillandale Road BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Legalize 8'-0" black chain link sports court fence
2. # 15-003 Prakash Krishnan & Raji Krishnan
29 Meadowlark Road
Request extension of approval of Zoning variances, Village Code
§250-13.H.
3. # 15-005 Douglas Trokie and Leslie Dubin
21 Berkley Lane
Request extension of approval of Zoning variances, Village Code
§250-13.H.
4. Approval of October 6, 2015 Zoning Board Summary
BOARD: Andrew Kaminsky
Joel Simon
Jeffrey Richman
Donald Moscato, Chairman
Excused: Steven Berger
STAFF: Michael Izzo, Building Inspector
Jennifer Gray, Esq., Village Counsel
Fred Seifert, Public Access Coordinator/IT
Paula Patafio, Meeting Secretary
BOARD
LIAISON: Excused: Trustee David Heiser
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Mr. Donald Moscato, Chairman, welcomed everyone to the Zoning Board meeting of
December 1, 2015. He introduced Village consultants and staff, and asked that anyone
addressing the Board please come to the podium, use the microphone, and state their
names and the nature of the application. He noted that there were three applications on
the agenda, and stated that Steve Berger was excused from the meeting. He noted that
there was a quorum, however, in order for a motion to be approved three out of the four
members must vote aye. Applicants would be given the opportunity to adjourn to the
next meeting.
With the consensus of the Board, he called for the second application on the agenda:
2. # 15-003 Prakash Krishnan & Raji Krishnan
29 Meadowlark Road
Request extension of approval of Zoning variances, Village Code
§250-13.H.
Justin Minineri, Architect, addressed the Board. In June 2015, the Zoning Board
granted variances for the subject property. He noted that the post-approval
process of retaining a contractor, etc. took longer than expected and, as a result,
the applicants require an extension of the variances granted on this project. He
requested a six month extension. The hope is to begin construction in April 2016.
The applicants are looking to start construction in more favorable weather.
Mr. Moscato called for members of the public wishing to address the Board.
There being no one he called for a motion to approve.
On a motion made by Andrew Kaminsky, and seconded by Joel Simon, the
variances were extended for a period of 6 months.
Andrew Kaminsky voting aye
Jeffrey Richman voting aye
Joel Simon voting aye
Don Moscato, Chairman voting aye
The motion was approved by a motion of four ayes to zero nays.
3. # 15-005 Douglas Trokie and Leslie Dubin
21 Berkley Lane
Request extension of approval of Zoning variances, Village Code
§250-13.H.
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Justin Minineri, Architect, addressed the Board. As in the previous application, he
noted that the post-approval process of retaining a contractor, etc. took longer than
expected. As a result, the applicants require an extension of the variances granted
on this project. He requested a six month extension. The applicant is looking to
commence construction in more favorable weather.
Mr. Moscato called for members of the public wishing to address the Board.
There being no one he called for a motion to approve.
On a motion made by Andrew Kaminsky, and seconded by Joel Simon, the
variances were extended for a period of 6 months.
Andrew Kaminsky voting aye
Jeffrey Richman voting aye
Joel Simon voting aye
Don Moscato, Chairman voting aye
The motion was approved by a vote of four ayes and zero nays.
1. # 15-015 Ms. Robin Kamin
39 Hillandale Road
Legalize 8'-0"black chain link sports court fence
Mr. Kaminsky noted that in the interest of full disclosure he lives in this general
neighborhood. When the application for site plan approval for the construction of
the house was considered by the Planning Board a few years ago, he addressed the
Planning Board in favor of the application. When the current application for a
fence height variance was submitted to the Zoning Board he went to the property
to view the site. The applicants allowed him on the property where he was able to
view the subject fence. He did not discuss the application with the applicants and
he will be objective in his review of the application. Therefore, he does not feel
the need to recuse himself from this evening's discussion and subsequent vote.
Mr. Moscato offered the applicant the option to adjourn to the next meeting when
Mr. Berger was in attendance. Craig Studer, Architect from the firm of Studer
Design Associates, stated that his clients wished to move forward. They also saw
no reason where Mr. Kaminsky should recuse himself.
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Mr. Studer noted that the applicant was before the Board for the legalization of an
existing chain link fence. He presented plans for the Board's review and pointed
out the existing sports court and fencing. He noted that the current fence is a
replacement of a like-kind old wire fence. The fence was unfit and a fence of like-
kind was installed. The new fence is 8' in height.
Mr. Moscato noted that the fence was an existing non-conformity. Removing the
fence, removed the pre-existing non-conformity.
Mr. Studer noted that his firm became aware of this issue when the pool fence was
being replaced. Mr. Steve Kamin, applicant, noted that the previously existing 8'
fence was replaced with an 8' fence. When the error was pointed out, they made
an application to the Village to legalize the fencing.
Letters and emails have been received, both for and against the application, and all
are now made part of the record. The Zoning Board reviews the application
against the five factors set forth in the law for the granting of an area variance. He
discussed an incident where a homeowner removed shrubbery and landscaping
that was blocking the home from the neighbors' line of sight. The removal clearly
affected the character of the neighborhood and the neighbor's quality of life, but it
was done in accordance with the Village's Code, as-of-right. He asked if the
applicants considered removing 2' of the fence or combining it with the pool
fencing. The applicant noted that there was a space of 10' between the pool fence
and the sports court fence. He also noted that there was an expense with changing
the height of the fence.
Mr. Kamin noted that they have met all requirements set forth by the ARB and the
Village Engineer.
Mr. Michael Izzo, Building Inspector, noted that the site plan application for
construction of the house did not address the pool, the pool house, the sports court,
or the fence. The Kamins were going to work on the house and then come back to
the Village for everything else. The applicant noted that they came back to the
Planning Board two years later for the other issues. The house and tennis court
was discussed, as was lighting and the fencing.
The applicant noted they did not intend to deceive or hide anything. The fence was
installed and up for nine to ten months, but problems with his neighbors arose
when the pool fence was installed.
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Mr. Moscato called for members wishing to address the Board in support or
opposition to the application. He noted that they would try to separate the
comments, first taking those in favor of the application and then those against. He
would then read portions of the emails received into the record. He noted that
Joseph and Wanda Moschitto of 41 Hillendale submitted a letter in support of the
application.
Mr. Michal Koeing of Old Mill Road addressed the Board. He noted that this is
about a 2' difference in the height of a fence. The existing fence was dilapidated
and was replaced. There was no detriment caused by replacing the fence. The
applicants allowed the neighbors' children access to the sports court. The problems
arose when the pool fence was installed.
Mr. Moscato read two letters in the record from 37 Hillandale and one from 39
Hillandale. Both are in favor of the application and have no problem with the
height of the fence.
Mr. Alan and Mrs. Robin Goldberg of 34 Meadowlark Road, the property owner
behind the applicants, addressed the Board. He began by stating that he would
allow the Board members access to his property to see the applicants' fencing from
his viewpoint. He noted that his children did play on the court and they were
kicked off and never felt comfortable going back. The sports court and fencing is
a few feet away from his property. The sports court and fence affects them, as
now his view is of one fence beyond another. He referred to it as the "prison yard
effect." Mr. Goldberg stated that it is the Zoning Board of Appeals' roll and
responsibility to preserve and protect the character of the neighborhood. For 24
years they had complete privacy and were screened with what was basically a
green wall -- shrubbery and vines. Once the old fencing was removed, along with
the vegetation that was growing on it and the trees were taken down, the view was
opened up to the sports court and fencing. The feeling of privacy was completely
gone. The Goldbergs provided photos to the Board. Any new trees that have been
planted are too short to adequately provide coverage and it will take years until
they provide screening.
It was noted that when the applicants removed the vine covered fence the Village's
Engineer order trees to be planted. There are no safety issues here. This property
has been under construction for two years. This problem was completely created
by the applicants. Mr. Goldberg asked that the ZBA please protect the community
and their quality of life. He asked that the Board come to his property to see what
they see. The applicants stripped the area. The Goldbergs asked that the Kamins
do the right thing.
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Mr. Moscato stated that what he has heard so far is that the neighbors are
requesting that the landscaping be restored. They feel the trees that have been
planted are not tall enough to screen their view. It was suggested by the Board
that the neighbors consider planting on their property as well.
Mr. Goldberg pointed out that many of the trees the applicant planted have already
died or are dying.
Mr. Moscato noted that what the neighbors are now looking at is clearly different
then what they were looking at before the construction. The character of the
neighborhood has not been affected because the fencing is not visible from street
level. The adjacent neighbors are the ones that are affected. The hope is that the
applicant and their neighbors can come to a compromise position.
The applicant noted that the Village requested that the trees be replaced. The
location of the trees was dictated by the Village. The trees were replaced two
weeks ago. The applicants have done everything the Architectural Review Board
and the Village has asked them to. If the trees die it will hurt the applicants as
well. If they die, they will be replaced. Mr. Kamin also noted that he was entitled
to put a fence around his property.
Mr. Izzo gave his interpretation of the state code with respect to pool enclosures.
The Village Code does not allow an 8' high fence in the rear yard.
The applicants do not want a strained relationship with their neighbors.
Mr. Moscato felt that the neighbors should meet and discuss this matter and come
up with something that is amenable to all. Jeffrey Richman also stated that he
would like to see a compromise and a reasonable conclusion. Mr. Kamin said the
compromise should include the neighbors doing some of the planting, versus
everything being put on them. Up to-date it has not been a two way street.
Mr. Moscato stated now that the Zoning Board is involved it becomes a different
situation.
Mr. Moscato stated that the matter could be adjourned to the next meeting to give
the applicants and the neighbors time to come up with a compromise.
Jennifer Gray, Esq., Village Counsel, stated that if additional plantings are going
to be proposed a plan depicting the location and species of plantings should be
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presented to the Zoning Board for review. The plan could then be referenced in
any approval of the variance so that it becomes enforceable by the Village.
Mr. Moscato called for members of the public wishing to address the Board in
opposition to the application.
Dean Santon, former owner of 39 Hillandale Road, addressed the Board. He
stated that this should be a simple matter of weighing and balancing of the five
standards in the Code for review of a variance request. Mitigation should be the
main goal here. He stated the site plan application reviewed by the Planning
Board for construction of the house covered more than just the house. Mr. Santon
presented the Board with photographs taken of the property over the years. The
applicants never mentioned the replacement of the fencing around the sports court
when prior applications were reviewed by the Village. The fencing was replaced
in 2013. They removed a vine covered fence and replaced it with an 8' black chain
link fence with the bad side facing the neighbors. Mr. Izzo noted that there really
is no bad side to a chain link fence as you can see through it. Mr. Santon noted
that the piping is now on the outside, making the fence easier to scale.
Mr. Santon noted the applicant removed trees with the Village's knowledge, but
they also butchered other trees, removing much of the canopy on many of them.
It was noted that Mr. Nowak is the certified arborist for the Village and that
Mr. Izzo is the enforcement arm— if there is a violation Mr. Izzo follows up.
Mr. Moscato noted that the issue is mitigation. Mr. Simon felt that the issues that
the neighbors have are more than an 8' high fence.
Mr. Santon noted the original plan was to put a fence around the pool. There are
consequences when you do not follow the Code. The pool fence is in the incorrect
location. The applicant had to go back to the ARB for approval because the fence
was no longer a split rail fence. If they never deviated from the approved plans
there would not be an issue. There were two permits to the project and there were
multiple amendments. This was a big project and it did take 2 '/2 years to
construct. There was a wall of green created by the branching and ivy covered
fence. The trees should be placed where they will get maximum benefit. The
neighbors should work together to create a planting plan.
Mr. Moscato noted that reducing the fence by 2' is the least expensive route, but
he would rather see a compromise between the neighbors. If the applicants and
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neighbors cannot reach a reasonable compromise, the Zoning Board will make the
decision.
Another neighbor, Mr. Lulkin of Meadowlark Drive, noted that by removing the
fence and the landscape screening, sound now travels further then it did before.
This is a significant adverse impact to the neighbors. The Kamins have not shown
respect for any of the neighbors. They have the right to do what they want on their
property within the purview of the Code, and the neighbors have the right to
complain about the visual impacts. The good side of the fence is not facing out.
There were trees on the property line but they died. The applicants are not
following the rules. He noted that lighting was added.
Mr. Izzo requested information regarding photographs; when and where they were
taken. He noted that on a recent photograph there is vegetation growing on the
new fence.
Mr. Studer noted that the applicants are improving their property. He invited the
Board to make a field visit.
Mr. Kamin stated that he will be happy to meet with the neighbors, but did not
want Mr. Santon involved. The Kamins formally requested an adjournment to the
January meeting.
On a motion made by Mr. Simon, and seconded by Mr. Kaminsky, the public
hearing was adjourned.
Andrew Kaminsky voting aye
Jeffrey Richman voting aye
Joel Simon voting aye
Don Moscato, Chairman voting aye
The motion was approved by a vote of four ayes and zero nays.
5. Approval of October 6, 2015 Zoning Board Summary
Mr. Moscato called for a motion and second for the approval of the October 6, 2015
Zoning Board Summary.
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On a motion made by Mr. Simon, and seconded by Mr. Kaminsky, the summary was
adopted.
Andrew Kaminsky voting aye
Jeffrey Richman voting aye
Joel Simon voting aye
Don Moscato, Chairman voting aye
The motion was approved by a vote of four ayes to zero nays.
There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 10:30
p.m.
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